Subject: Re: another question about my 6400/180 and YDL 2.0...
From: Robert Brandtjen (rob@prometheusmedia.com)
Date: Mon Aug 13 2001 - 02:12:18 MDT
on 8/13/01 12:01 AM, Brian Watson at bcwatso1@uiuc.edu wrote:
> I have a 6500/300 running OS 9.1 in conjunction with YDL 2.0, which
> is basically the exact same model as your computer (both use the
> 603ev). I believe Apple only supported through 8.6 originally when
> OS 9 came out but then later added support for OS 9. OS 7.1.3-9.1
> should work fine with your computer. Eventually, you'll be able to
> use OS X on that machine, because utilities are being made. (It's
> probably possible to do it if you're really good at tweaking with
> your system/open firmware??) However, Apple will probably never have
> officially support OS X on the older machines. :)
The tools are there now - it isn't worth it, I began with the beta - this
coming from an avid OSXS1.2 user -
I installed the beta (PB) on a 7600 and a B&W G3 - there was no difference
between them once I got a hold of a cache enabler -
However 10.0 release changed that - I find it to be very unstable vis-à-vis
a true production machine environment - maybe, just maybe, 10.1 will be
better - it took the original OSXS till version 1.2 - 3 upgrades in fact, to
be stable, and it was then apple used it for serving pages on apple.com.
Things YDL has that OSX hasn't:
SCSI support (now I mean real scsi support - RAID, Tape drives, etc)
Back-up and restore solutions (Amanda)
Case sensitive file system (HFS+ is not a real server FS solution)
The good chance of journaled file system (ext3) soon to be compiled into the
kernel
A real open source community that does work on porting/writing apps for the
OS.
The ability to compile 99% of the OS *nix apps out there with-out any
trouble - don't believe anyone who tells you that OSX 10.x can do that - it
can't, it wont even really run on UFS - it sort of limps along and most of
it's functionality tends to breaks down. Oh, you can install MySQl, for
instance, but you can't just type ./configure and have it go in.
OSX also needs to be re-installed periodically - it craps itself out after
being up awhile - sort of like windows.
You can add static mount points for new devices - OSX mounts them as it
boots and dynamically assigns mount points - so swap may not always be swap
if you put it on a separate drive from /.
Kerberos authentication - MIT says it "may" get around to porting it to OSX.
Lots and lots of drivers - Apple OSX can only see D-Link Ethernet cards, for
instance - the assante drivers are extremely buggy and go deaf all the time.
Support for non apple video cards - made me happy I had use for a V5 under a
non classic mac/pc OS.
Dependant upon the community at large for kernel updates - Apple has already
shown itself to be very slow in updating OSX and dealing with bug fixes. As
well as their proprietary ports for it such as Apache.
True support for upgraded machines - the fact is, is, a 9600 with 500 MHz G3
or G4 add on card will benchmark with in 10% or less of a brand new G$ 733 -
that by using xlr8yourmac.com's benchmarking tools.
A true "server" style box if one wants it - those briqs look very very nice
- and they use industry standard ports, so you can buy the cheaper kvm's and
not spend 3 times as much to get a Mac compatible solution there as well.
And --- you could spend the money for one of those 4 CPU pci add on cards
and really fly.
Just a few rambling thoughts-----------
Good night now.
Robert Brandtjen
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