Subject: Your spam filter is getting it wrong.
From: Patrick Callahan (pac1@tiac.net)
Date: Wed Aug 22 2001 - 16:48:12 MDT
Gee guys, Since when is a message from a bona fide mail list for a commecial
company considered spam? ;-)
Hundreds of members of our list have been seeing multiple messages like the
one reproduced below from your spam filter or several days now. We would
like you to take action on this.
Our messages ,which your software is rejecting, are anything but spam. Some
intended recipients who receive mail through your servers are probably
wondering why they are not getting their messages.
It might be the case, that one of your less knowlegable users has at one
time subscribed to the yellowdog-general list and then wished to un-subscribe
but didn't know the correct procedure for doing so. They may have then
reported the list to you as a source of "spam". If this is the case, the
correct procedure would be to instruct the user in how to learn the correct
procedure for un-subscribing and then have them do so. Fun isn't it? Its
all part of running a service.
As for the user or users in this case, unsubscribing is quite easy. All the
user need do to remove their name from the list is send an e-mail message
to yellowdog-general-unsubscribe@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
Keep in mind that this is not an "opt out " procedure or anything of the
kind. The user must have specifically requested being added to the
yellowdog-general mailing list by sending an e-mail request and must send a
confirming e-mail in response to a reply to their request to subscribe. It
just isn't possible to do this accidentally. But you probably knew that
already.
You should be aware that if you continue to treat bona fide mailing list
entries as spam, you're going to get more than a few angry e-mails from the
hundreds or thousands of members of such lists.
Good luck straigtening out this mess. If there's any way we can help, just
e-mail me and I'll forward your message to the list.
-Pat
-- Don't get mad, get reasonable! --
They're probably just like us - overworked and underpaid
let's give em a couple of days to respond....
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Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 22 Aug 2001 09:37:37 -0000 Issue 503
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 03:33:41 -0700
From: spam_filter@linuxfreemail.com
To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>--dnngiedmnjdecjcbokpo
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>yellowdog-general Digest 22 Aug 2001 09:37:37 -0000 Issue 503
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>Topics (messages 13700 through 13700):
>
>yellowdog-general Digest 22 Aug 2001 09:35:18 -0000 Issue 502
> 13700 by: spam_filter@linuxfreemail.com
>
>Administrivia:
>
>To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
> yellowdog-general-digest-subscribe@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
>To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
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>To post to the list, e-mail:
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>Content-Type: message/rfc822
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>Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 03:29:13 -0700
>Message-Id: <200108221029.f7MATDC18327@superglide.netfx-2000.net>
>To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
From: spam_filter@linuxfreemail.com
>Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 22 Aug 2001 09:35:18 -0000 Issue 502
>
>>--fdnlkohfjjelbbkfbada
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>>
>>yellowdog-general Digest 22 Aug 2001 09:35:18 -0000 Issue 502
>>
>>Topics (messages 13677 through 13699):
>>
>>yellowdog-general Digest 20 Aug 2001 23:26:08 -0000 Issue 501
>> 13677 by: spam_filter@linuxfreemail.com
>> 13679 by: ABrady <kcsmart@kc.rr.com>
>> 13685 by: Alan Orth <aorth@mac.com>
>>
>>KDE 2.2 for YDL 2.0
>> 13678 by: Mark Jaffe <wizards@wizdev.net>
>> 13681 by: Dan Burcaw <dburcaw@terraplex.com>
>>
>>failed to install iptables rpm
>> 13680 by: "Timothy A. Seufert" <tas@mindspring.com>
>> 13684 by: Murias O'Ceallagh <linux@dragonsblood.net>
>> 13689 by: "Timothy A. Seufert" <tas@mindspring.com>
>>
>>Xinetd 2.3.2
>> 13682 by: Darron Froese <darron@froese.org>
>>
>>Can't start X Server in 6400 installation.
>> 13683 by: Michael Alexander Owens <endymionmichael@mac.com>
>>
>>rpm failure
>> 13686 by: Iain Stevenson <iain@IainStevenson.com>
>>
>>making Yaboot indefinite
>> 13687 by: Bookem <bookem@totalise.co.uk>
>> 13688 by: spam_filter@linuxfreemail.com
>>
>>mol on ydl kernel 2.4.4-1a
>> 13690 by: Trevor Marshall <trevor@risk2risk.com>
>>
>>2.4.x SMP kernels...
>> 13691 by: Mark Jaffe <wizards@wizdev.net>
>> 13693 by: Trevor Marshall <trevor@risk2risk.com>
>>
>>Good read
>> 13692 by: Robert Brandtjen <rob@prometheusmedia.com>
>>
>>FTP Help
>> 13694 by: Brian Watson <bcwatso1@uiuc.edu>
>>
>>ProFTPD 1.2.2 (and ftp login problems)
>> 13695 by: mike <mike@mercuryrising.mine.nu>
>>
>>More frequent Powerbook wake-up failures
>> 13696 by: "Paul J. Lucas" <pauljlucas@mac.com>
>>
>>[OT] Mailing list manager reco's?
>> 13697 by: Sam Moore <samiwas@macconnect.com>
>> 13698 by: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com>
>>
>>Upgrading to 9.2 on a NW machine with YDL2.0 installed
>> 13699 by: Gavin Hemphill <hemphill@drea.dnd.ca>
>>
>>Administrivia:
>>
>>To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
>> yellowdog-general-digest-subscribe@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>>To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
>> yellowdog-general-digest-unsubscribe@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>>To post to the list, e-mail:
>> yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>>
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>>--fdnlkohfjjelbbkfbada
>>Content-Type: message/rfc822
>>Content-Disposition: inline; filename="yellowdog-general.13677"
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>>Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:19:45 -0700
>>Message-Id: <200108210019.f7L0Jj829740@superglide.netfx-2000.net>
>>To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>From: spam_filter@linuxfreemail.com
>>Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 20 Aug 2001 23:26:08 -0000 Issue 501
>>
>>>--clhhghaipaigjbnbbmnp
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>>
>>>yellowdog-general Digest 20 Aug 2001 23:26:08 -0000 Issue 501
>>>
>>>Topics (messages 13647 through 13676):
>>>
>>>FTP Again
>>> 13647 by: Brian Watson <bcwatso1@uiuc.edu>
>>>
>>>another new user with PPP trouble
>>> 13648 by: Ben Stallings <Ben@WorksCited.Net>
>>> 13650 by: "eric hernandez" <hnz.eric@freesurf.fr>
>>>
>>>making Yaboot indefinite
>>> 13649 by: Bookem <bookem@totalise.co.uk>
>>> 13651 by: spam_filter@linuxfreemail.com
>>> 13654 by: Dan Burcaw <dburcaw@terraplex.com>
>>> 13656 by: spam_filter@linuxfreemail.com
>>> 13657 by: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914@home.com>
>>> 13660 by: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com>
>>>
>>>nfs export mystery solved (partly)
>>> 13652 by: Neil Jolly <neil@jollycom.ca>
>>>
>>>Precompiled Kernel w/ 3D accel and Dual Process Support
>>> 13653 by: cdowns@amanet.org
>>> 13655 by: Dan Burcaw <dburcaw@terraplex.com>
>>> 13661 by: Jose M. <josemanuel@valux.org>
>>> 13662 by: "Ruprecht, Chris" <cruprech@compucom.com>
>>> 13663 by: Robert Vogt IV <robert@arborhost.com>
>>>
>>>SendMail Question
>>> 13658 by: "Howard Shere" <hshere@greendragon.com>
>>> 13659 by: Robert Brandtjen <rob@prometheusmedia.com>
>>>
>>>Yellowdog Linux on RS/6000
>>> 13664 by: Derek Richardson <derek.richardson@pgs.com>
>>>
>>>failed to install iptables rpm
>>> 13665 by: Murias O'Ceallagh <linux@dragonsblood.net>
>>> 13666 by: "Iain Stevenson" <iain@iainstevenson.com>
>>> 13667 by: Dan Burcaw <dburcaw@terraplex.com>
>>> 13671 by: Murias O'Ceallagh <linux@dragonsblood.net>
>>> 13673 by: Bryn Hughes <linux@demian.shacknet.nu>
>>>
>>>Kernel compiling process
>>> 13668 by: Donovan Warren <aramis_@Bacil.DYNDNS.ORG>
>>> 13669 by: Bryn Hughes <linux@demian.shacknet.nu>
>>> 13670 by: John Norair <splinemodel@mac.com>
>>> 13672 by: Murias O'Ceallagh <linux@dragonsblood.net>
>>>
>>>rpm failure
>>> 13674 by: Murias O'Ceallagh <linux@dragonsblood.net>
>>>
>>>KDE 2.2 for YDL 2.0
>>> 13675 by: Phil <pdarling@voyager.net>
>>> 13676 by: Dan Burcaw <dburcaw@terraplex.com>
>>>
>>>Administrivia:
>>>
>>>To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
>>> yellowdog-general-digest-subscribe@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>>
>>>To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
>>> yellowdog-general-digest-unsubscribe@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>>
>>>To post to the list, e-mail:
>>> yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>--clhhghaipaigjbnbbmnp
>>>Content-Type: message/rfc822
>>>Content-Disposition: inline; filename="yellowdog-general.13647"
>>>
>>>Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>>Mime-Version: 1.0
>>>Message-Id: <a05101000b7a5eba89e54@[192.168.1.4]>
>>>Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 17:41:57 -0500
>>>To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>>From: Brian Watson <bcwatso1@uiuc.edu>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>>>Subject: FTP Again
>>>
>>>I am having a problem connecting to my ftp server with I'm not on my
>>>local network. I have the YDL box as the DMZ behind my router, but
>>>any attempt to connect to the server tries to access it from its
>>>internal IP. Example:
>>>
>>>I connect from:
>>>
>>>12:34:56:78
>>>
>>>to my server
>>>
>>>My ftp server sends back the ip for 192.168.1.2 (the server's internal IP)
>>>
>>>Where would this problem be? Is there some way to bind proftpd to
>>>the external IP address?
>>>
>>>--Brian
>>>
>>>--clhhghaipaigjbnbbmnp
>>>Content-Type: message/rfc822
>>>Content-Disposition: inline; filename="yellowdog-general.13648"
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