Subject: Re: Switching from BootX to yaboot
From: Paul J. Lucas (pauljlucas@mac.com)
Date: Wed Feb 21 2001 - 21:40:40 MST
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Hollis R Blanchard wrote:
> > I played with this stuff briefly and I found that I couldn't get
> > Open Firmware to recognize yaboot as something it can run unless
> > I used the hfsutils and set the proper type/creator to make it
> > appear as a MacOS ROM file.
>
> That's not correct; the installation guide describes exactly how to install
> and use yaboot without performing these steps.
Well, it simply didn't work on my Lombard until I did what I
said even though I followed all the other directions. As soon
as I made the change as I described above, it worked. I;m
fairly convinced that Lombard Powerbooks are a special case.
Among other things, it's a new-world machine, but BootX works.
Did you actually try to install yaboot as is described in the
YDL instructions specifically on a Lombard Powerbook? I'm sure
the instructions as documented work fine on newr machines like
Pismos and iMacs.
> Are you referring to
> http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/faq_solutions.shtml?
Yes. Minor example, first under HARDWARE:
Q: Running X Windows on the new iMac DVs
That's not a question.
> Most users just want a booting solution that works. We would be doing the
> majority of our custormers and users a great disservice by running around
> trying to document every possible boot solution to satisfy a few.
Three (BootX, yaboot, System Disk) aren't very many.
> Power users can generally fend for themselves.
Uhm... probably the majority of Linux users /are/ power users
to begin with. That aside, just because many /can/ spend hours
tinkering and getting things to work does /not/ mean that's how
they'd like to spend their time. Personally, I have more
important things to do.
> I'm not personally offended
It wasn't meant to be offensive. It was meant to be
constructive criticism.
> but please remember the constraints on our time and resources before
> criticizing. There are far more important things for us to be doing other
> than documenting how one might use System Disk to boot.
I think boot methods in general are fairly important. If you
can't boot, nothing else matters.
Also, yaboot is just plain ugly. I'd rather have a nice, easy,
graphical boot loader than something like, say, YUP. I can
install RPMs myself.
- Paul
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