Re: yellowdog-general Digest 17 Jan 2001 03:13:31 -0000 Issue 327


Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 17 Jan 2001 03:13:31 -0000 Issue 327
From: Raymond Wozencroft (raycroft@iinet.net.au)
Date: Wed Jan 17 2001 - 23:05:56 MST


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From: phil <phil@bphprint.co.nz>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 17 Jan 2001 03:13:31 -0000 Issue 327

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> yellowdog-general-digest-help@lists.yellowdoglinux.com wrote:
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> > yellowdog-general Digest 17 Jan 2001 03:13:31 -0000 Issue 327
> >
> > Topics (messages 8938 through 8967):
> >
> > Audio
> > 8938 by: "Duncan Hames" <zesty23@secretservices.net>
> > 8942 by: Matt Tyndorf <mtyndorf@home.com>
> >
> > BootX to yaboot on Lombard
> > 8939 by: "Paul J. Lucas" <pauljlucas@mac.com>
> >
> > yellowdog-general Digest 16 Jan 2001 06:20:12 -0000 Issue 326
> > 8940 by: "William F. Hostman" <aramis@gci.net>
> >
> > Uninstalling apps
> > 8941 by: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > 8943 by: "Paul J. Lucas" <pauljlucas@mac.com>
> >
> > installing KDE2
> > 8944 by: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > 8947 by: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > 8948 by: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> >
> > Cant hear CD, kdm
> > 8945 by: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> >
> > LinuxPPC 2000 Q4 successfully boots on the Apple PowerBook G4 Titanium
> > 8946 by: "William K. Gibson" <firstdesk@columbus.rr.com>
> >
> > Preparing for KDE2
> > 8949 by: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > 8951 by: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> >
> > Latest YDL
> > 8950 by: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> >
> > System Disk Maintenence
> > 8952 by: Bryn Hughes <linux@demian.shacknet.nu>
> >
> > hosts.allow & hosts.deny
> > 8953 by: Bryn Hughes <linux@demian.shacknet.nu>
> > 8955 by: "Philip Good" <phil@redplanetx.com>
> > 8956 by: "Philip Good" <phil@redplanetx.com>
> >
> > KDE2 install glitch
> > 8954 by: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > 8958 by: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> >
> > Keyboard mapping and 2.2.18
> > 8957 by: Ulrik Sjöström <ulriks@mail.bahnhof.se>
> >
> > KDE Install Glitch (2)
> > 8959 by: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > 8960 by: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > 8961 by: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > 8962 by: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > 8963 by: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > 8964 by: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > 8965 by: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > 8966 by: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > 8967 by: Alfonso AGNEW <aagnew@gnick.math.smu.edu>
> >
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> >
> > Subject: Re: Audio
> > Date: 16 Jan 2001 07:28:16 -0000
> > From: "Duncan Hames" <zesty23@secretservices.net>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > Thanks Matt I'll try that
> >
> > On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:20:32 -0500 Matt Tyndorf <mtyndorf@home.com>
wrote:
> > >Try entering this as root:
> > >
> > >modprobe dmasound - That will see if the default DMA sound module
will
> > >work.
> > >
> > >if it works, reboot and type in (again, as root) insmod dmasound
> > >
> > >And thats all there is to it :)
> > >
> > >Cheers!
> >
> > Send someone a cool Dynamitemail flashcard greeting!! And get rewarded.

> > GO AHEAD! http://cards.dynamitemail.com/index.php3?rid=fc-41
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: Audio
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 07:37:05 -0500
> > From: Matt Tyndorf <mtyndorf@home.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > Whoops sorry Duncan, it won't work when you reboot, forgot about that.
> >
> > To get it to install all the time at boot, put the following lines in
your
> > /etc/conf.modules file (which may or may not be empty)
> >
> > alias sound dmasound
> >
> > and it'll load at startup.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Duncan Hames wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Matt I'll try that
> > >
> > > On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:20:32 -0500 Matt Tyndorf <mtyndorf@home.com>
wrote:
> > > >Try entering this as root:
> > > >
> > > >modprobe dmasound - That will see if the default DMA sound module
will
> > > >work.
> > > >
> > > >if it works, reboot and type in (again, as root) insmod dmasound
> > > >
> > > >And thats all there is to it :)
> > > >
> > > >Cheers!
> > >
> > > Send someone a cool Dynamitemail flashcard greeting!! And get
rewarded.
> > > GO AHEAD! http://cards.dynamitemail.com/index.php3?rid=fc-41
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: BootX to yaboot on Lombard
> > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 23:42:57 -0800 (PST)
> > From: "Paul J. Lucas" <pauljlucas@mac.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Jonathan Bertsch wrote:
> >
> > > image=hd:10,/boot/vmlinux
> > > label=linux
> > > root=/dev/hda10
> > > append="video=aty128fb:vmode17; adb_buttons=103,111"
> >
> > OK, I found out that I need to use hfsutils to do:
> >
> > hattrib -r tbxi -c chrp bootscript
> > hattrib -r tbxi -c chrp yaboot
> >
> > However, yaboot conplained that it couldn't find its config
> > file even though I put it right in the System Folder where
> > yaboot itself is.
> >
> > - Paul
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 16 Jan 2001 06:20:12 -0000 Issue
326
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:46:04 -0900
> > From: "William F. Hostman" <aramis@gci.net>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > >On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Jonathan Bertsch wrote:
> > >
> > > > > OK, I changed the boot-device in Open Firmware, but when I type
> > > > > "boot" I get "unrecognized client program format".
> > > >
> >
> > boot mac-os. D/l ResEdit from apple. change the type and creator
> > codes for yaboot to 'tbxi' and 'chrp' respectively (Each code is 4
> > place, case sensitive). Assuming that it's a valid yaboot file.
> >
> > > > To boot into linux all the time you need to pass:
> > >
> > > If you read the rest of my mail, I said I want a dual boot
system.
> > >
> > > > setenv boot-device hd:##,yaboot
> > > > setenv boot-command boot
> > >
> > > Where did you see that second line documented?
> > >
> > > > and then to boot after that do:
> > > >
> > > > boot hd:##,yaboot
> > >
> > > Same for that line? Regardless, this doesn't change the fact
> > > that the program format is unrecognized.
> > >
> > > - Paul
> >
> > It was in my install docs that shipped with my binder and CD's for 1.2
> > replace the ## with the partition number for whichever partition your
> > yaboot is located on. That mode of use needs yaboot to be at the root
> > level of the partition. And the setenv commands are unneeded in some
> > cases. for example, to boot to linux, I get to open firmware, and
> > type:
> >
> > boot hd:9,yaboot
> >
> > I used to have to type yaboot.tbxi, rather than yaboot, since the
> > older version was yaboot.tbxi
> >
> > --
> > William F. Hostman | "Smith & Wesson: THe original Point and Click
> > interface!"
> > Aramis 0602 C55A364-C S kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy-
ge- 533
> > aramis@gci.net http://home.gci.net/~aramis Vilani: uilamaanamti
sirohbrankilin
> > IMTU 1.0: tc tm++ tn- t4-- tt+ to- tg-- ru+ ge 3i+ c+ jt-() au+ st-
> > ls pi+() ta+ he+(-) kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy-
> > ge- pi+
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Uninstalling apps
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 07:11:57 -0500
> > From: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a way to cleanly uninstall a program in YDL? For example, is
there
> > a control panel or a yup command that one can type to cleanly remove an
> > installed application?
> >
> > Just to refresh my memory, is the proper syntax to install an rpm,
> >
> > Rpm install applicationame
> >
> > Thanks for all help
> >
> > Tony
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: Uninstalling apps
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 07:29:04 -0800 (PST)
> > From: "Paul J. Lucas" <pauljlucas@mac.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> >
> > > Is there a way to cleanly uninstall a program in YDL?
> >
> > rpm -e application-gors-here
> >
> > > Just to refresh my memory, is the proper syntax to install an rpm,
> > >
> > > Rpm install applicationame
> >
> > No. Do:
> >
> > man rpm
> >
> > - Paul
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: installing KDE2
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:01:19 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a quick question though...I went to the ftp site containing the
KDE
> > > 2.0 files...in there you have a text file in which you mention that
you have
> > > to remove certain files..
> > >
> > > "You will need to uninstall:
> > > kpilot switchdesk-kde kdebase-1.1.2-30 kdeutils-1.1.2-3
korganizer-1.1.2-2
> > > kdeadmin-1.1.2-6 kdemultimedia-1.1.2-6 kdpms-0.2.8-1 kpackage
> > >
> > > You will need to yup install:
> > > zip unzip openssl"
> > >
> > > Can you please explain how to do this and why this is necessary.
> >
> > To delete the named packages, use rpm -e.
> >
> > To install the other named packages, use yup install.
> >
> > This is necessary because of conflicts and dependancies - try installing
> > without that and you'll see exactly what I mean.
> >
> > > Also, do the KDE 2 files need to be installed in a certain order.
> >
> > Install them all at once.
> >
> > -Hollis
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: installing KDE2
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:10:17 -0500
> > From: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> >
> > Thanks a lot Hollis for all your help.
> >
> > One last thing, is there a special command to install all the rpm's at
once.
> > What I have done is create a new folder called KDE2 in the root and
> > downloaded all the Kde 2.01 files there.
> >
> > Note, I have downloaded all the file except the developer ones. Will
that
> > cause a problem during the install. If so, please let me know so that I
can
> > go back and d/l them before installing anything.
> >
> > Thanks again for your time. I truly appreciate it.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > > From: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:01:19 -0500 (EST)
> > > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > > Subject: Re: installing KDE2
> > >
> > > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I have a quick question though...I went to the ftp site containing
the KDE
> > >> 2.0 files...in there you have a text file in which you mention that
you have
> > >> to remove certain files..
> > >>
> > >> "You will need to uninstall:
> > >> kpilot switchdesk-kde kdebase-1.1.2-30 kdeutils-1.1.2-3
korganizer-1.1.2-2
> > >> kdeadmin-1.1.2-6 kdemultimedia-1.1.2-6 kdpms-0.2.8-1 kpackage
> > >>
> > >> You will need to yup install:
> > >> zip unzip openssl"
> > >>
> > >> Can you please explain how to do this and why this is necessary.
> > >
> > > To delete the named packages, use rpm -e.
> > >
> > > To install the other named packages, use yup install.
> > >
> > > This is necessary because of conflicts and dependancies - try
installing
> > > without that and you'll see exactly what I mean.
> > >
> > >> Also, do the KDE 2 files need to be installed in a certain order.
> > >
> > > Install them all at once.
> > >
> > > -Hollis
> > >
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: installing KDE2
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:16:07 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> > >
> > > One last thing, is there a special command to install all the rpm's at
once.
> > > What I have done is create a new folder called KDE2 in the root and
> > > downloaded all the Kde 2.01 files there.
> >
> > No, nothing special. rpm -ivh *.rpm will work just fine.
> >
> > > Note, I have downloaded all the file except the developer ones. Will
that
> > > cause a problem during the install. If so, please let me know so that
I can
> > > go back and d/l them before installing anything.
> >
> > It won't cause any problems except that you will be unable to compile
KDE
> > apps later.
> >
> > -Hollis
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: Cant hear CD, kdm
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:05:18 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: Yellow Dog <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> >
> > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> > >
> > > My problem remains that my CD won't mount when I put a music CD.
> >
> > That is correct, and as you mention below not a problem.
> >
> > > Ironically though, the CD player recognizes that there is a music CD
and
> > > actually plays properly, but I can't hear anything.
> >
> > Have you adjusted your volume with kmix?
> >
> > > Also, is there a way to get the KDE login screen right away, instead
of
> > > always having to login, and then typing 'startx'?
> >
> > echo KDE > /etc/sysconfig/desktop
> >
> > Then edit /etc/inittab and change the default runlevel to 5 instead of
3.
> >
> > -Hollis
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: LinuxPPC 2000 Q4 successfully boots on the Apple PowerBook
G4
> > Titanium
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:08:10 -0500
> > From: "William K. Gibson" <firstdesk@columbus.rr.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> >
> > on 1/15/01 1:10 PM, Robert Vogt IV at robert@arborhost.com wrote:
> >
> > > A friend of mine @ Apple says that YDL runs well on the Titanium,
> > > and that the speed increase over the PBG3s is _very_ noticeable!
> >
> > Awesome! Now I can get me one. :-)
> >
> > Of course, now I need to ask the MOL group if MOL will work also.
> >
> > --William K. Gibson
> > 1stDesk Systems
> > firstdesk@columbus.rr.com
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Preparing for KDE2
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:46:37 -0500
> > From: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > > "You will need to uninstall:
> > > kpilot switchdesk-kde kdebase-1.1.2-30 kdeutils-1.1.2-3
korganizer-1.1.2-2
> > > kdeadmin-1.1.2-6 kdemultimedia-1.1.2-6 kdpms-0.2.8-1 kpackage
> > >
> > > You will need to yup install:
> > > zip unzip openssl"
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Regarding the above, I successfully installed zip, unzip, and openssl
using yup
> > install.
> >
> > I also successfully removed (using the rpm -e command) everything except
the
> > following:
> >
> > - kdebase-1.1.2-30 (this is the error I got)
> >
> > kdebase is needed by autorun 2.61-1
> > kdebase is needed by kdebase-lowcolor-icons-1.1.2-30
> > kdebase is needed by kdpms-0.2.8-1 (I removed that later, so I think
this error
> > so be gone now)
> >
> > - kdemultimedia-1.1.2-6
> >
> > kdebase is needed by autorun 2.61-1
> >
> > Shall I go ahead and remove the programs that are not allowing me to
remove
> > those files you mention or will that cause a problem?
> >
> > After I successfully manager to remove the above, this is how I intend
to
> > install the rpms at once for KDE. Please tell me if this is correct as
Im not
> > sure.
> >
> > 1) Open terminal, this will put me in root
> > 2) Type: CD KDE2 (since that's the folder I created in root and contains
all the
> > KDE 2.01 files)
> > 3) Type: rpm -ivh *.rpm
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: Preparing for KDE2
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:03:21 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> > >
> > > I also successfully removed (using the rpm -e command) everything
except the
> > > following:
> > >
> > > - kdebase-1.1.2-30 (this is the error I got)
> > >
> > > kdebase is needed by autorun 2.61-1
> > > kdebase is needed by kdebase-lowcolor-icons-1.1.2-30
> > > kdebase is needed by kdpms-0.2.8-1 (I removed that later, so I think
this error
> > > so be gone now)
> > >
> > > - kdemultimedia-1.1.2-6
> > >
> > > kdebase is needed by autorun 2.61-1
> > >
> > > Shall I go ahead and remove the programs that are not allowing me to
remove
> > > those files you mention or will that cause a problem?
> >
> > rpm -e kdebase autorun kdebase-lowcolor-icons
> >
> > > After I successfully manager to remove the above, this is how I intend
to
> > > install the rpms at once for KDE. Please tell me if this is correct as
Im not
> > > sure.
> > >
> > > 1) Open terminal, this will put me in root
> >
> > You will not be root unless you su (man su) to root.
> >
> > > 2) Type: CD KDE2 (since that's the folder I created in root and
contains all
> > > the KDE 2.01 files)
> >
> > Try 'cd'; 'CD' won't get you anything except an error.
> >
> > > 3) Type: rpm -ivh *.rpm
> >
> > Actually, make that rpm -Uvh (man rpm to find out why).
> >
> > -Hollis
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: Latest YDL
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:19:52 -0500
> > From: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > The ftp site for the latest KDE2.01 is down. Are there any mirror sites?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > Hollis R Blanchard wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is there a later non-beta kernel? If so can someone tell where I can
d/l
> > > > it as well as the necessary vmlinux file that I need to put in the
> > > > kernels folder in the MacOS.
> > >
> > > If you yup update (which I strongly recommend you do) you'll get
2.2.17.
> > >
> > > 2.2.18 is available for manual install at
> > > ftp://ftp.terraplex.com/pub/updates/kernel/2.2.18
> > >
> > > > Also, does anyone know if there is an rpm for KDE 2.01 for YDL 1.2?
> > >
> > > ftp://ftp.terraplex.com/pub/users/hollis/kde2
> > >
> > > -Hollis
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: System Disk Maintenence
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:34:24 -0800
> > From: Bryn Hughes <linux@demian.shacknet.nu>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> >
> > I guess nightly is a little excessive. Really I'd just like to at least
> > have a weekly check/repair of the file system. I HAVE had a couple of
> > occasions where things have gone a little quirky with my drive... and
since
> > the server is almost never rebooted, it doesn't have much of an
opportunity
> > to check itself. I know right now there's some problems on one of my
> > partitions, but I can't take down the server during the day to do
repairs,
> > and I'm not on site after hours, so it has to be a cron job if if
involves
> > stopping networking.
> >
> > What do you do for disk maintenance?
> >
> > Bryn
> >
> > on 1/12/01 11:24 AM, Paul J. Lucas at pauljlucas@mac.com wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Bryn Hughes wrote:
> > >
> > >> What's the best way to do disk repairs and maintenance on a YD Linux
system?
> > >> Switching into single-user maintenance mode on my system leaves me
with no
> > >> USB. Being that it's a G4, that's not too convenient (no
mouse/keyboard).
> > >
> > > Bringing the ethernet interface down will get you a fairly
> > > quiescent system.
> > >
> > >> Ideally I'd like to have the server go down to maintenance mode every
night
> > >> and run fsck to check/repair my disks ...
> > >
> > > There really is no reason to be doing that.
> > >
> > > - Paul
> > >
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: hosts.allow & hosts.deny
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:07:59 -0800
> > From: Bryn Hughes <linux@demian.shacknet.nu>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: "yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com"
> > <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> >
> > I'm having some trouble setting up my hosts.allow and hosts.deny files.
The
> > man entries explain everything more or less, except I don't know what
the
> > wildcard entry is! For some reason my man pages are slightly messed up
and
> > I get something like a control character instead of whatever the real
> > wildcard character is.
> >
> > What I want to do:
> >
> > DENY access to everyone, then
> > ALLOW access to just our internal IP addresses
> > ALLOW access to a few individual static addresses off site
> >
> > I don't need to do anything as far as limiting access to specific ports
or
> > anything else exotic at this point as I'm not running mail/web/ftp
services
> > on this machine for anyone other than the above mentioned addresses.
> >
> > I'm also hoping that ALLOW takes precedence over DENY? Some systems
I've
> > worked with (notably Windows 2000) look at DENY and then ALLOW, which
makes
> > it very difficult to create a "nobody EXCEPT XYZ" type of policy.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bryn
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: hosts.allow & hosts.deny
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:29:20 GMT
> > From: "Philip Good" <phil@redplanetx.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > in hosts.deny put
> >
> > ALL : ALL : DENY
> >
> > in hosts.allow put:
> >
> > aaa.aaa.aaa.aaa : ALL : ALLOW
> > aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd : ALL : ALLOW
> > xxx.xxx.xxx.0 : ALL : ALLOW
> > .domain.com
> >
> > this will allow access by the first two IPs, all addresses that start
with xxx.xxx.xxx and allow access from all hosts from the domain
> > domain.com.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > > I'm having some trouble setting up my hosts.allow and hosts.deny
files. The
> > > man entries explain everything more or less, except I don't know what
the
> > > wildcard entry is! For some reason my man pages are slightly messed
up and
> > > I get something like a control character instead of whatever the real
> > > wildcard character is.
> > >
> > > What I want to do:
> > >
> > > DENY access to everyone, then
> > > ALLOW access to just our internal IP addresses
> > > ALLOW access to a few individual static addresses off site
> > >
> > > I don't need to do anything as far as limiting access to specific
ports or
> > > anything else exotic at this point as I'm not running mail/web/ftp
services
> > > on this machine for anyone other than the above mentioned addresses.
> > >
> > > I'm also hoping that ALLOW takes precedence over DENY? Some systems
I've
> > > worked with (notably Windows 2000) look at DENY and then ALLOW, which
makes
> > > it very difficult to create a "nobody EXCEPT XYZ" type of policy.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bryn
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Philip Good
> > Red Planet Development, Red Canyon Software, Good Chi Tai Chi
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: hosts.allow & hosts.deny
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:29:37 GMT
> > From: "Philip Good" <phil@redplanetx.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > in hosts.deny put
> >
> > ALL : ALL : DENY
> >
> > in hosts.allow put:
> >
> > aaa.aaa.aaa.aaa : ALL : ALLOW
> > aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd : ALL : ALLOW
> > xxx.xxx.xxx.0 : ALL : ALLOW
> > .domain.com : ALL : ALLOW
> >
> > this will allow access by the first two IPs, all addresses that start
with xxx.xxx.xxx and allow access from all hosts from the domain
> > domain.com.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > > I'm having some trouble setting up my hosts.allow and hosts.deny
files. The
> > > man entries explain everything more or less, except I don't know what
the
> > > wildcard entry is! For some reason my man pages are slightly messed
up and
> > > I get something like a control character instead of whatever the real
> > > wildcard character is.
> > >
> > > What I want to do:
> > >
> > > DENY access to everyone, then
> > > ALLOW access to just our internal IP addresses
> > > ALLOW access to a few individual static addresses off site
> > >
> > > I don't need to do anything as far as limiting access to specific
ports or
> > > anything else exotic at this point as I'm not running mail/web/ftp
services
> > > on this machine for anyone other than the above mentioned addresses.
> > >
> > > I'm also hoping that ALLOW takes precedence over DENY? Some systems
I've
> > > worked with (notably Windows 2000) look at DENY and then ALLOW, which
makes
> > > it very difficult to create a "nobody EXCEPT XYZ" type of policy.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bryn
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Philip Good
> > Red Planet Development, Red Canyon Software, Good Chi Tai Chi
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: KDE2 install glitch
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:33:09 -0500
> > From: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > Hollis R Blanchard wrote:
> >
> > > > 3) Type: rpm -ivh *.rpm
> > >
> > > Actually, make that rpm -Uvh (man rpm to find out why).
> > >
> >
> > Ok, I downloaded ALL the files from the ftp site just to be complete,
and I opened
> > terminal window and got into my KDE2 folder. I then typed: rpm -Uvh
*.rpm and
> > everything started to go well, until I got this error and then
everything stopped.
> >
> > libXaw.so.7 is needed by the kdemultimedia 2.0.1-1
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tony
> >
>
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Re: KDE2 install glitch
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:30:29 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, I downloaded ALL the files from the ftp site just to be complete,
and I
> > > opened terminal window and got into my KDE2 folder. I then typed:
rpm -Uvh
> > > *.rpm and everything started to go well, until I got this error and
then
> > > everything stopped.
> > >
> > > libXaw.so.7 is needed by the kdemultimedia 2.0.1-1
> >
> > ls -l /usr/X11/lib/libXaw* please? I think I may have built KDE2 with
XF4, in
> > which case you'll need to upgrade X as well (lucky you! :).
> >
> > -Hollis
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: Keyboard mapping and 2.2.18
> > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:10:53 +0100
> > From: Ulrik Sjöström <ulriks@mail.bahnhof.se>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > Hi Rick. No, you didn't do anything wrong. The 2.2.18 kernel uses a
> > new input layer. Your mouse won't work in X either, at least not adb
> > button emulation. Check the linuxppc "user" mailing list. It has all
> > the information you need to correct the problem. Do a search on
> > "keymap" or "emulation". You might have to recompile the kernel,
> > depending on if you checked "emulate adb mouse buttons" (or something
> > like that)
> > //Ulrik S
> >
> > >I've compiled the sources in my iMac rev.B, and everything seems to
work
> > >apart from keyboard mapping. In fact keyboard is unusable, because of
> > >the keycodes I can get from 'showkey' are completely different from the
> > >previous ones (and the same using 'xev' in X), and so there is no
> > >corrispondence between buttons and outputs.
> > >Are there any suggestions? Did I make some mistakes in 'make
> > >menuconfig'?
> > >Bye.
> > > Rick
> > >--
> > >"Like a bird on the wire
> > > like a drunk in a midnight choir
> > > I tried in my way to be free."
> > > L. Cohen, "Bird on the wire"
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: KDE Install Glitch (2)
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:57:11 -0500
> > From: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: Yellow Dog <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> >
> > Hi Hollis,
> >
> > I can't find that file in the path that you provide. I tried looking
> > manually
> > but couldn't find it either. How do you do a find in Linux that
> > resembles
> > something like sherlock : )...
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > > ------ Forwarded Message
> > > From: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:30:29 -0500 (EST)
> > > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > > Subject: Re: KDE2 install glitch
> > >
> > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, I downloaded ALL the files from the ftp site just to be
> > complete, and I
> > > > opened terminal window and got into my KDE2 folder. I then typed:
> > rpm -Uvh
> > > > *.rpm and everything started to go well, until I got this error and
> > then
> > > > everything stopped.
> > > >
> > > > libXaw.so.7 is needed by the kdemultimedia 2.0.1-1
> > >
> > > ls -l /usr/X11/lib/libXaw* please? I think I may have built KDE2 with
> > XF4,
> > > in
> > > which case you'll need to upgrade X as well (lucky you! :).
> > >
> > > -Hollis
> >
>
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Re: KDE Install Glitch (2)
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:03:16 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: Yellow Dog <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> > >
> > > I can't find that file in the path that you provide. I tried looking
> > > manually
> > > but couldn't find it either. How do you do a find in Linux that
> > > resembles
> > > something like sherlock : )...
> >
> > It's called 'locate'. ;)
> >
> > I certainly hope you have XFree86-libs installed; if not please install
it.
> >
> > -Hollis
> >
>
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Re: KDE Install Glitch (2)
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:22:04 -0500
> > From: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > Hollis R Blanchard wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I can't find that file in the path that you provide. I tried
looking
> > > > manually
> > > > but couldn't find it either. How do you do a find in Linux that
> > > > resembles
> > > > something like sherlock : )...
> > >
> > > It's called 'locate'. ;)
> > >
> > > I certainly hope you have XFree86-libs installed; if not please
install it.
> > >
> > > -Hollis
> >
> > Aha..I think that may be the culprit. I dont think I have it installed.
I did
> > a
> >
> > locate XFree86-libs in the terminal window and got 'No such file or
directory'
> >
> > Is there a quick way to get it installed? Is this why I can't get KDe2
to
> > install properly?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony
> >
>
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Re: KDE Install Glitch (2)
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:04:21 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> >
> > > Hollis R Blanchard wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I can't find that file in the path that you provide. I tried
looking
> > > > > manually
> > > > > but couldn't find it either. How do you do a find in Linux that
> > > > > resembles
> > > > > something like sherlock : )...
> > > >
> > > > It's called 'locate'. ;)
> > > >
> > > > I certainly hope you have XFree86-libs installed; if not please
install it.
> > >
> > > Aha..I think that may be the culprit. I dont think I have it
installed. I
> > > did a locate XFree86-libs in the terminal window and got 'No such file
or
> > > directory'
> >
> > XFree86-libs is an rpm package; not a file. locate (which you apparently
do
> > not have installed) finds files.
> >
> > rpm -q XFree86-libs will tell you if you have it installed or not.
> >
> > > Is there a quick way to get it installed? Is this why I can't get KDe2
to
> > > install properly?
> >
> > yup install slocate XFree86-libs
> >
> > -Hollis
> >
>
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> >
> > Subject: Re: KDE Install Glitch (2)
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:15:43 -0500
> > From: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > Hollis R Blanchard wrote:
> >
> > > XFree86-libs is an rpm package; not a file. locate (which you
apparently do
> > > not have installed) finds files.
> > >
> > > rpm -q XFree86-libs will tell you if you have it installed or not.
> >
> > ok I did that and got:
> >
> > XFree86-libs-3.3.6.11.2
> >
> > so maybe I do have it after all. So what now? Does that mean there is
something
> > wrong elsewhere? If so, any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tony
> >
>
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Re: KDE Install Glitch (2)
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:18:51 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> >
> > > Hollis R Blanchard wrote:
> > >
> > > > XFree86-libs is an rpm package; not a file. locate (which you
apparently do
> > > > not have installed) finds files.
> > > >
> > > > rpm -q XFree86-libs will tell you if you have it installed or not.
> > >
> > > ok I did that and got:
> > >
> > > XFree86-libs-3.3.6.11.2
> > >
> > > so maybe I do have it after all. So what now? Does that mean there is
> > > something wrong elsewhere? If so, any ideas?
> >
> > rpm -ql XFree86-libs | grep libXaw
> > Here's what I get:
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6.1
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7.0
> >
> > Now you try.
> >
> > -Hollis
> >
>
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Re: KDE Install Glitch (2)
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:29:39 -0500
> > From: Tony Yazbeck <tyazbeck@bigfoot.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > Hollis R Blanchard wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hollis R Blanchard wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > XFree86-libs is an rpm package; not a file. locate (which you
apparently do
> > > > > not have installed) finds files.
> > > > >
> > > > > rpm -q XFree86-libs will tell you if you have it installed or not.
> > > >
> > > > ok I did that and got:
> > > >
> > > > XFree86-libs-3.3.6.11.2
> > > >
> > > > so maybe I do have it after all. So what now? Does that mean there
is
> > > > something wrong elsewhere? If so, any ideas?
> > >
> > > rpm -ql XFree86-libs | grep libXaw
> > > Here's what I get:
> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6
> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6.1
> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7
> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7.0
> > >
> > > Now you try.
> >
> > I only get the following:
> >
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6.1
> >
> > How come? I dont understand? Is there a fix?
> >
> > Tony
> >
>
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Re: KDE Install Glitch (2)
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:45:32 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tony Yazbeck wrote:
> >
> > > Hollis R Blanchard wrote:
> > > >
> > > > rpm -ql XFree86-libs | grep libXaw
> > > > Here's what I get:
> > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6
> > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6.1
> > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7
> > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7.0
> > > >
> > > > Now you try.
> > >
> > > I only get the following:
> > >
> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6
> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6.1
> > >
> > > How come? I dont understand? Is there a fix?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > The reason is because those KDE2 rpms were built with XF4 (which you can
find
> > in the same place).
> >
> > Here are your options:
> > 1. install XF4. can be annoying, and may not work well depending on your
> > video card.
> > 2. don't install kdemultimedia. easy, but you'll be missing the KDE mp3
> > player, audio mixer, etc (there are non-KDE equivalents which you
probably
> > already have installed).
> >
> > As to the understanding part, I really recommend finding a good book on
Red
> > Hat Linux and reading it. I've heard great things about O'Reilly's
_Running
> > Linux_.
> >
> > -Hollis
> >
>
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Re: KDE Install Glitch (2)
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:13:43 -0600
> > From: Alfonso AGNEW <aagnew@gnick.math.smu.edu>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > CC: Hollis R Blanchard <hollis+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> >
> > Hollis,
> >
> > I've been following your and Tony's emails regarding kde2. They've been
easy
> > to follow: thank you! If I recall correctly, you have both kde2 rpms
and
> > xf402 rpms available from the terraplex.org ftp server. I have been
wanting
> > to upgrade from xf336 to xf40* for a little while, but I have a
wallstreet2
> > with the ati mach64 video, which is/was only partially supported. Being
a
> > novice (not beginning!) linux guy, I've been reluctant to try xf40* due
to
> > limited tweaking skills. Could you say how I might fare with your xf40*
> > rpms, on my wallstreet2? When successful with xf40*, I will also try
your
> > kde2 rpms.
> >
> > Thanks for all your work/help!
> >
> > Alfonso
>
>



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