Subject: Re: YDL install w/ multiple drives
From: Avinash Gupta (agupta@mediaone.net)
Date: Thu Jan 03 2002 - 05:53:05 MST
You may want to try running the following command from a konsole:
ofpath /dev/hde8
This should tell you the "real" Open firmware path. But if this does not
work, then things are a bit (a lot?) more complicated ...
Look at the following yaboot FAQ:
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/yaboot-faq.html#scsi_boot_path
read the whole section very carefully and try to see if you can get this
working. I am afraid I cannot help you out more here since this is getting
too complicated and I would have to be physically there at your machine to be
more helpful :)
But I am sure you will figure it out!
Best of Luck.
-- Avinash Gupta (agupta@mediaone.net)
On Thursday 03 January 2002 02:03, you wrote:
> Hey there,
>
> OK, I proceeded cautiously with the below steps and when
> I edit..... " /etc/yaboot.conf " to include the
> "macos=/dev/hde8"
>
> then from the Konsole command prompt run 'ybin"
>
> I get the following message:
>
> (quote)
> of path: device: /dev/hde8 is not supported
> ybin: unable to determine the real open firmware path
> for macos/dev/hde8
> ybin: try specifying the real open firmware path for
> /etc yaboot.conf
> (end quote)
>
> Boot screen sees and labels the drive, pdisk as well...
> I have no idea how to "specify the "Real Path"...
>
> Thanks for your time and brain power...
>
> CL
>
> "C.L. Simco" wrote:
> > Avinash,
> >
> > Your instinct was absolutely correct from what you "read somewhere".
> > In addition to what you said I watched the Black boot-load sequence
> > screen carefully and saw that YDL WAS INDEED seeing all of the other
> > Drives. Taking note of what YDL had called them, in KDE Konsole
> > as[root] I input :
> >
> > 'pdisk /dev/hde' then 'p' ....
> >
> > indeed YDL sees the drive with the 2 hfs partitions as:
> >
> > partition 7 darwin-bkup
> > partition 8 darwin-finity (the system that I want to use in MOL)
> >
> > Because I am so new to command line I am proceeding very cautiously,
> > however if I am starting to get the hang of this then I would:
> >
> > ==1. Go back to step one and append " /etc/yaboot.conf " to include the
> > "macos=/dev/hde8"
> >
> > ==2. From the Konsole command promp run 'ybin" as you said in
> > your message to me early yesterday.
> >
> > ==3. Next, from the same message:
> > (QUOTE)
> > In order to run MOL, you will first need to run /usr/bin/molvconfig as
> > root. Then open the file /etc/molrc and read through all the options
> > carefully, commenting out what you don't need and un-commenting what you
> > need. Especially look at the section that says 'HFS volumes'. You will
> > probably need an entry like:
> >
> > blkdev: /dev/sda1 -rw -boot
> >
> > (Replace the /dev/sda1 with whatever your drive is for MacOS)
> >
> > Once this is done, save the file and start MOL from the command line
> > using :
> >
> > startmol
> > (END QUOTE)
> >
> > I'm not sure what I'll need to "comment out" etc but I'll take it a step
> > at a time.
> >
> > Thanks again for your time,
> >
> > CL
> >
> > Avinash Gupta wrote:
> > > Hmmm ... Since no SCSI devices are attached ... I have a feeling that
> > > your drives are not SCSI drives as your Mac OS device info shows. I
> > > read somewhere that the Sonnet cards make your drives APPEAR as SCSI
> > > drives in Mac OS but in reality they are regular ATA drives.
> > >
> > > This means that instead of appearing as /dev/sdx (where x = a, b, c,
> > > etc) they will appear as /dev/hdx (where x = a, b, c, etc) in Linux.
> > >
> > > Try this:
> > >
> > > make sure the pdisk package is installed:
> > >
> > > At a konsole window in KDE, as root, type:
> > >
> > > yup update pdisk
> > >
> > > To make sure pdisk got installed correctly, type:
> > >
> > > rpm -qa | grep pdisk
> > >
> > > This should print out:
> > >
> > > pdisk-0.8-2
> > >
> > > If not, then pdisk did not get installed correctly. You can still
> > > retrieve it by ftp from:
> > >
> > > ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yellowdog-2.1/ppc/YellowDog/
> > >ppc/pdisk-0.8-2.ppc.rpm
> > >
> > > Install it using:
> > >
> > > rpm -ivh pdisk-0.8.2.ppc.rpm
> > >
> > > Once the pdisk package is installed, type:
> > >
> > > pdisk /dev/hda
> > >
> > > It should say:
> > >
> > > Command (? for help):
> > >
> > > Type:
> > >
> > > p (hit return)
> > >
> > > This will print the partition map (this is how it looks on my system):
> > >
> > > #: type name length base ( size )
> > > 1: Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1
> > > 2: Apple_Driver43*Macintosh 54 @ 64
> > > 3: Apple_Driver43*Macintosh 74 @ 118
> > > 4: Apple_Driver_ATA*Macintosh 54 @ 192
> > > 5: Apple_Driver_ATA*Macintosh 74 @ 246
> > > 6: Apple_FWDriver Macintosh 200 @ 320
> > > 7: Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh 512 @ 520
> > > 8: Apple_Patches Patch Partition 512 @ 1032
> > > 9: Apple_HFS "Macintosh HD" 20480000 @ 1544 ( 9.8G)
> > > 10: Apple_Bootstrap untitled 40961 @ 20481544 ( 20.0M)
> > > 11: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap 524289 @ 20522505 (256.0M)
> > > 12: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 untitled 37586550 @ 21046794 ( 17.9G)
> > >
> > > The entry that you are interested in above is # 9 (the HFS partition).
> > > Thus, in my case the Mac OS partition is /dev/hda9.
> > >
> > > If you don't see any HFS partitions on /dev/hda, quit pdisk by typing:
> > >
> > > q (hit return)
> > >
> > >
> > > and restart by trying:
> > >
> > > pdisk /dev/hdb
> > >
> > > Repeat the above steps until you find the partition where Mac OS is
> > > installed.
> > >
> > > -- Avinash Gupta (agupta@mediaone.net)
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 01 January 2002 09:13, you wrote:
> > > > Avinash,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your patience with my learning curve ;-))
> > > >
> > > > OK, logged in as [root] I input the command ...'cat /proc/scsi/scsi'
> > > > and the result is: attached devices: none
> > > > As far as the Sonnet card, yes this is the card that the 3 Mac HFS+
> > > > drives are attached to.
> > > > CL
> > > >
> > > > Avinash Gupta wrote:
> > > > > Open a console window in KDE and type 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' ...
> > > > > what is the output you see on the screen? I am trying to find out
> > > > > if your SCSI drives are visible under linux ... if yes, then you
> > > > > should see some output with the above command. BTW, is the Sonnet
> > > > > PCI card your SCSI card?
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Avinash Gupta (agupta@mediaone.net)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday 01 January 2002 07:56, you wrote:
> > > > > > Avinash,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do not know what you mean. Remember I'm
> > > > > > just starting, VERY green. Please explain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > CL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Avinash Gupta wrote:
> > > > > > > What is the output you get when you do a?:
> > > > > > > cat /proc/scsi/scsi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -- Avinash Gupta (agupta@mediaone.net)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tuesday 01 January 2002 06:58, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi and thanks for responding to both Gordon and Avinash,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've spent the last couple of hours since Avinash
> > > > > > > > responded to my first message trying to do what he suggested.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here is what happened:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When I figured out how to get into and use the Konsole in KDE
> > > > > > > > (took awhile to figure out how to log in as root)
> > > > > > > > I tried to append the " /etc/yaboot.conf " to include
> > > > > > > > the "macos=" line that Avinash suggested. Then it took a
> > > > > > > > while to figure out how to re-run the "ybin" from the command
> > > > > > > > prompt. (I'm really green, here)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Each time I ran the"ybin" I got an error, that told me in
> > > > > > > > effect: "Put in the correct path to ther device or I can do
> > > > > > > > nothing to help you".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here is the info that I used to append the /etc/yboot.conf
> > > > > > > > file with:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > macos=/dev/sda1
> > > > > > > > macos=/dev/sda1a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As you see I'm guessing since, although I know where the
> > > > > > > > device is in MAC OS terms (see system info below) but not in
> > > > > > > > Linux/Unix terminology. I know that there two positions on
> > > > > > > > the SCSI card, and 3 drives. The drive/ partition that I want
> > > > > > > > to use as the Mac OS is named "darwin-finity". note: I do
> > > > > > > > have a duplicate of that system on the the partition
> > > > > > > > "darwin-bkup"
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > > > > > CL
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gordon Neault wrote:
> > > > > > > > > When you startup via GUI Open Firmware, can you select the
> > > > > > > > > MacOS partition that way? (hold "option" key on startup).
> > > > > > > > > If so, then it's a bootloader configuration thing. If not,
> > > > > > > > > something's wrong with MacOS (partition map?).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 11:35 AM, C.L. Simco wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi, and thanks for the help in advance....
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I installed YDL 2.1 successfully, by itself, on one of
> > > > > > > > > > the drives in my system. <snip>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > CURRENT SITUATION:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I can start up in YDL, move around and configure in KDE.
> > > > > > > > > > I can shut down in YDL.
> > > > > > > > > > I do not, on startup, have the option of starting in the
> > > > > > > > > > Mac environment
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > from the startup prompt (no "M" is displayed). I cannot
> > > > > > > > > > find MOL though I installed an "Everything" package.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In order to switch to Mac, I have to Exit YDL, shut down,
> > > > > > > > > > disconnect the YDL drive, then restart (oddly since the
> > > > > > > > > > YDL installation it now takes
> > > > > > > > > > longer by nearly 2 min to start MAC. Seems to hang at the
> > > > > > > > > > screen w/ the first appearance of the cursor).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I would like to be able to configure YDL to have the Mac,
> > > > > > > > > > YDL, MOL startup options, recognizing Mac on the other
> > > > > > > > > > disk, if this is possible.
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