Subject: Re: YDL vs. MacOS X
From: A S Hodel (a.s.hodel@Eng.Auburn.EDU)
Date: Mon Jul 02 2001 - 04:05:04 MDT
I also used a tri-boot system for awhile, but I don't think Mac OS X
is ready for prime-time yet,
at least not for the tools (Octave, laTeX) that I use. gcc and its
components cannot (yet)
be downloaded and compiled out of the box. Octave (which I use) will
not yet compile due
to a bug with implicit c++ templates, which is being worked on from
the gcc side (I think).
For f2c, you can use the fink package (available from sourceforge).
A lot of free software
can be installed using fink, but that's a work in progress, and so
I'd recommend that developers
spend their time there.
Mac OS X holds a great deal of promise, but if you're trying to get
work done, YDL still looks like the
way to go, at least on my desk.
At 10:19 AM -0400 7/2/01, John Klinck wrote:
>Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 10:19:28 -0400 (EDT)
>From: John Klinck <klinck@ccpo.odu.edu>
>To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>Subject: Re: YDL vs. MacOS X
>
>Chris,
>
> Interesting point. I got macos x just for the reason that you
>mention: a unix
>platform for a powerbook g4. After getting the software, I found that many of
>the tools I wanted did not compile on os x. I have not tried them all, but
>enough things were missing that it is a problem. I read a number of home pages
>for software to get hints, but there seem to be rather serious differences
>between MacOSX and most Linux distributions. The first release of os x is
>relatively new, so these problems may disappear soon.
>
> I had hoped for a fortran compiler. Yes, I use fortran and it is alive in
>some science fields. Even f2c would have been helpful. All I could find was an
>os 9 application. I saw some messages that GNU gcc does not compile with the
>macos x version of gcc. I had hoped to get g77 running but did not
>try it when
>I saw that gcc would not compile. Being new, this may be my lack of experience
>with linux, but I have worked with sun's version of unix so I am not entirely
>without experience.
>
> Other tools are octave (a matlab workalike), Generic Mapping Tools, NCAR
>graphics and some ocean circulation models which use netCDF. Many of
>these have
>fortran callable routines so installation requires some fortran. I
>tried to run
>the configure script on GMT but it died at the beginning because host type was
>not found.
>
> I thought about installing YDL on an external disk just to have access to
>these tools until os x became more widely used. I did not want to
>run a third os
>on the single internal disk but I did not know how to do this on an external
>disk. Firewire and usb are apparently not recognized, and there is
>no scsi port
>on the G4 powerbook. Does anyone know how to put YDL on an external
>disk on the
>new powerbooks?
>
> Thanks in advance. Sorry if this is not the place for a YDL vs MacOS X
>discussion.
>
> John
>
>John M. Klinck
>Center for Coastal Physical Oceanography
>Department of Ocean, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences
>Old Dominion University
>Norfolk, Virginia 23529
>phone: 757 683-6005, fax: 757 683-5550 email: klinck@ccpo.odu.edu
-- A. S. Hodel 200 Broun Hall Dept. Elect. & Comp. Eng., Auburn Univ. AL 36849-5201 http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~scotte 334 844 1854 Fax: -1809
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