Subject: Re: Xserver issues - and - Where to find Linux documentation that doesn't suck?
From: nathan r. hruby (nhruby@arches.uga.edu)
Date: Sat Nov 03 2001 - 11:03:21 MST
On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, John Norair wrote:
> Xserver part:
> Getting the XServer to work: it says no display found, where do I fix
> that?
>
/etc/X11/XF86Config From reading the below, you already know what's going
on, so I don't need to go any further :) The "No Display found" error
is fairly common and therefore is pointless to post without the entire
output of X's startup, please try posting that and we'll see what we can
do.
> I have posted this before. I'm just going to toss it up again to see if
> anyone bites.
If the above, I bit. If the below, I bit too, but trolling for flame wars
will not get you any more help from me.
>
> Where is Linux documentation + unfortunate, subconsciously induced rant.
>
To name a few:
http://www.ibiblo.org/
http://www.linuxdoc.org/
http://www.linux.com # Some repetion here, but also some good articles
http://www.google.com/linux/
http://www.linuxjournal.com/
http://www.sysadmin.com/
irc://irc.openprojects.net/
Professionial support can be purchased from:
http://www.redhat.com/
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/
http://www.linuxcare.com/
# Vendor specfic support
http://www.dell.com/linux/
http://www.mklinux.com/ (Former Apple linux project)
Compaq / HP have some as does IBM, but I am not too familiar with it and
don't know the URL's off the top of my head.
# Also, pretty much every app has a mailing lsit with searchable archives.
> My biggest problem with Linux is that it has no corporate entity that's
> really behind it, so there's no be-all/end-all documentation.
Actaully, linux documentation seems the most complete of all of the OS's I
support on a daily basis. It certianly better than MS's standard "talk to
your system or network administrator" and linux docs are a hell of a lot
easier to find then MS's or Apples stupid kbases. (I miss the TIL) It
requires some addtional searching, but what problem doesn't? IS there a
difference between using Google to find the answer to your question rather
thatn the MSFT or APPL search engines for their sites?
> It seems
> to me that the Linux user base learns and passes on knowledge through a
> verbal system more appropriate for tribal groups like Free Masons and
> Navajo.
And Microsoft's standard "Talk to your nearest MSCE" answer isn't? The
number of times MS's docs have told me to go "talk" to someone is
austounding. If I ever meet this "someone," whomever he / she is, I'm
going to wring their necks! ;-)
> I have read quite a few "Linux Docs" (a lot) and I find them
> very unfulfilling.
It's typically served over a bed of wild long grain rice with a side of
sardines. Penguins like sardines. ;-)
> Where do you find this great Linux documentation? I
> suppose I could buy support from TerraSoft, but at this point I won't
> pay a cent for YDL: In terms of opportunity cost it has already cost
> thousands of dollars.
>
I must not have caught all your previous threads.. How has it already cost
you thousands? Time, CD's, bandwidth, brain power, hassle? There's a
posint where you have to remain committed or give it up. You seem to have
crossed that point into the land of no return, so why fight it?
> I'm stuck in this bad situation, where I know quite a bit about what's
> going wrong - more than anyone I've encountered - but it's not enough to
> solve the problem. This is where it would be very nice to have explicit
> corporate documentation.
>
Umm.. you have better, the source (which is fairly well commented). If
you know more about the problem then anyone else, you are in the best
postion to fix it. (and write a HOWTO for YDL and get a T-Shirt.. See
linux is already starting to pay off!)
XF86 Config can be put on the list of black arts with SCSI termination and
MS SMB Domain Controllers. It's easy to get daunted, but XFree really has
some of the best documentation becasue of this. Look in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11 and /usr/X11R6/share/Xconfigurator for some sample
configs, and lists of know working monitors and video display adapters
(with recommended configs) http://www.cfree86.org/ also has docs.
> Considering the time I have put into trying to get my system to work, I
> probably could have rewritten enough parts of the kernel source to force
> the damn thing to work. So please, if anyone has any idea where to find
> detailed documentation that explain how to fix it that doesn't ramble on
> about what's going on (I know what's going on), I'd be much obliged.
>
Hmm.. I don't really want to fan the flames, but.. uhh.. if you're so
talented as to be able to rewrite parts of the kernel to solve your
problem one would think XF86 configuration wouldn't be too difficlut.
-n
-- ...... nathan hruby - nhruby@arches.uga.edu computer support specialist department of drama and theatre http://www.drama.uga.edu/ ......
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