Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 3 Nov 2001 01:02:51 -0000 Issue 566
From: Ted Branscomb (tbranscomb@mosquitonet.com)
Date: Sun Nov 04 2001 - 03:25:36 MST
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On Friday, November 2, 2001, at 04:02 PM, yellowdog-general-digest-
help@lists.yellowdoglinux.com wrote:
>
> yellowdog-general Digest 3 Nov 2001 01:02:51 -0000 Issue 566
>
> Topics (messages 15469 through 15498):
>
> Display set up assistenace
> 15469 by: "Ralph Frisbie" <rfrisbie@vcnet.com>
>
> quad daystar genesis
> 15470 by: George Herndon <gherndon@eyeontech.com>
>
> 2.4.12-benh0 on Powerbook G4 (Titanium) 500
> 15471 by: Chip Witt <chip.witt@westwave.com>
> 15472 by: "Timothy A. Seufert" <tas@mindspring.com>
> 15478 by: Neill Miller <neillm@thecodefactory.org>
> 15487 by: Chip Witt <chip.witt@westwave.com>
>
> pwrctl (was: Re: Hot complaints about YDL 2.1)
> 15473 by: David Wheeler <david@wheeler.net>
> 15474 by: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
> 15475 by: David Wheeler <david@wheeler.net>
>
> Forward Delete Key on iBook 2001 (Icebook)
> 15476 by: Joe Buczek <joe_buczek@yahoo.com>
>
> I typed "sbin/macos" as root...
> 15477 by: Oscar Jack Marsh <oscarmarsh@mac.com>
>
> Advice on Apple warranties and an iBook?
> 15479 by: dano <dano@well.com>
>
> Problems booting CD on iBook Dual USB
> 15480 by: Bill Vinson <billvinson@mac.com>
> 15491 by: "Timothy A. Seufert" <tas@mindspring.com>
> 15492 by: Malayil Philip George <georgemp@mac.com>
> 15493 by: nathan hruby <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
>
> Slightly off-topic -- trash score RS6000 help!
> 15481 by: Alexander Holst <holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
>
> Opinion?? Version 2.0?
> 15482 by: "Michael Cozzi" <cozzi@cozziconsulting.com>
>
> Connect but don't surf ?
> 15483 by: jeanachille <jeanachille@mac.com>
> 15484 by: Black <cpa@ece.cmu.edu>
> 15485 by: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
>
> [OT] Apple Store T-shirts
> 15486 by: Brian Watson <bcwatso1@uiuc.edu>
>
> PB G3, YDL 2.4.12a, & Sound--Do they play together?
> 15488 by: Bob Beaton <bob@keyengine.com>
> 15497 by: cbsled@ncia.net
>
> Startup problem on an iMac
> 15489 by: Oscar Jack Marsh <oscarmarsh@mac.com>
>
> X server screen resolution
> 15490 by: Tim Clinton <clinton@ucalgary.ca>
>
> More info on the iBook booting problems
> 15494 by: Bill Vinson <billvinson@mac.com>
>
> will it work: YellowDog on a Starmax w/ G3 card?
> 15495 by: pH_______ <disck@home.com>
> 15496 by: Cdowns <cdowns@skillsoft.com>
> 15498 by: ůő® ˙ ő®ů <thruzero@home.com>
>
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> From: "Ralph Frisbie" <rfrisbie@vcnet.com>
> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 09:29:11 AM America/Anchorage
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: Display set up assistenace
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> I've installed 2.1 on a MAC G-4 with a Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 73
> monitor. One serious problem:
>
> The graphical display is not centered and it flickers at a high
> rate. The
> automatic install does not list a 73, so I've tried with the numbers
> close
> to it, 100, 71, etc. with no difference. I tried running xvidtune,
> but it apparently does not work, says default requests - mode-line error
> (on the default configuration it comes up with)
>
> I hope that a manual editing of /etc/X11/XF86Config might fix
> problem,
> but I don't know enough to do that. Anybody got any ideas?
>
> Help.
> Thanks,
> Ralph
> From: George Herndon <gherndon@eyeontech.com>
> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 09:43:30 AM America/Anchorage
> To: cacc@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: suse-ppc@suse.com, yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: quad daystar genesis
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> if anyone is interested in buying a quad daystar genesis running linux,
> please email me off-list.
>
> thx,
>
> george
>
> From: Chip Witt <chip.witt@westwave.com>
> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 09:58:43 AM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: 2.4.12-benh0 on Powerbook G4 (Titanium) 500
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Greetings again. I apologize if this is a bit "fringe", but I'm hoping
> someone out there can help me with my new question.
>
> Background:
>
> Recently purchased a new Powerbook G4 500 and got Yellow Dog 2.1 up and
> running on it (after a lot of work and help from some of you). There
> were some difficulties with the stock 2.4.10-12a kernel with recognizing
> the DVD/CD-ROM drive, which prevented me from being able to mount any
> CDs. Knew that going in, but want to reap the benefits of the 2.4
> kernel, so I refused to follow Dan Burkaw's advice and stay down with
> the 2.2 kernel (which has no device problems on my particular machine).
>
> Issue(s):
>
> After getting all but the CD/DVD drive working under the stock YD 2.1
> kernel, I downloaded and installed Ben H.'s latest stabe (2.4.12-benh0)
> from the ppckernel.org Web site. Came up without a hitch, and I can now
> mount data CDs and read them, but cannot play (mount, or rip) music CDs.
> I'm also getting strange gdm crashes, but I'm less concerned with that
> (especially since I can start at run-level 3 and manually 'startx'
> without the gdm crash problem inhibiting my work).
>
> Plea:
>
> Does anyone have a clue as to what is going on with playing (or not
> being able to) music CDs. Obviously, this makes the machine less fun as
> a multimedia machine.
>
> Thanks.
>
> CW
>
> PS -- As a side note, if anyone knows of another forum wherein this
> question may be more appropriate, please pass along that info.
>
> --
>
> Chip Witt
> Sr. Network Administrator
> Westwave Communications
>
> 463 Aviation Blvd.
> Santa Rosa, CA 95403
> (V) 707-284-7237
> (F) 707-591-9413
> (E) chip.witt@westwave.com
>
> ________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________
>
> "Today, wealth is no longer best defined
> as ownership of land, goods, capital or
> labor. It is knowledge and knowing how to
> use it."
>
> Peter Drucker, 1988
> ________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________
>
> --
>
>
> From: "Timothy A. Seufert" <tas@mindspring.com>
> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 10:56:02 AM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: 2.4.12-benh0 on Powerbook G4 (Titanium) 500
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> At 10:58 AM -0800 11/1/01, Chip Witt wrote:
>
>> PS -- As a side note, if anyone knows of another forum wherein this
>> question may be more appropriate, please pass along that info.
>
> Since it's a benh kernel, you should probably ask Ben H. :) He'd know
> if there were any kernel issues.
>
> BTW you say you can't even mount or rip audio CDs? I just remembered
> that the PB G4 (like all other recent Apple models) does not have a
> path for analog audio output from the CD or DVD to get to an analog
> mixer which mixes it with output from the sound chip (unlike older Macs
> and PC sound cards). Instead, the CD player program has to rip the
> audio data from the CD and feed it to the sound chip. I'm not sure any
> Linux CD player programs support this process yet.
> -- Tim Seufert
> From: Neill Miller <neillm@thecodefactory.org>
> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 05:22:23 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: 2.4.12-benh0 on Powerbook G4 (Titanium) 500
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:58:43 -0800
> Chip Witt <chip.witt@westwave.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a clue as to what is going on with playing (or not
>> being able to) music CDs. Obviously, this makes the machine less fun as
>> a multimedia machine.
>
> Hello,
> I've never tried this under YDL and don't have my CD player around
> to slip into the media bay for testing, but under Linux/PPC, playing
> audio CDs worked on my Powerbook G3 Firewire (Pismo) with the following
> command:
>
> cdparanoia 1- -Z - | play -t wav - <--- don't forget the "-" at the
> end!
>
> Since it was cumbersome to type, I set up an alias like this in my
> .bashrc (assuming you run bash as your default shell):
>
> alias gocd='cdparanoia 1- -Z - | play -t wav -'
>
> I hope that works for you. The lack of track selection isn't too good,
> but it was the best solution I had found when I looked almost a year
> ago.
>
> -Neill.
>
> --
> http://www.thecodefactory.org/neillm
> From: Chip Witt <chip.witt@westwave.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 07:48:03 AM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: 2.4.12-benh0 on Powerbook G4 (Titanium) 500
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Actually, The problem was specific to the drive needing ATAPI SCSI
> emulation to function properly. I will describe what worked to fix the
> problem...
>
> In /etc/yaboot.conf I added the "append" line:
>
> <snipped normal stuff from top of file>
>
> # yaboot images
> image=/boot/vmlinux
> label=linux
> root=/dev/hda4
> append="hdc=ide-scsi"
>
> Then I had to make the /dev/sr0 device:
>
> mknod /dev/sr0 b 11 0
> chgrp disk /dev/sr0
> chmod 666 /dev/sr0 # so anyone can use
>
> Fixed the symlink to /dev/cdrom:
>
> ln -sf /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom
>
> Voila! Music for the masses (and ripping too). The only thing I've
> found to be wonky about this particular solution is, unlike on my x86
> laptop with traditional ATAPI control, ripping CD tracks to .wav prior
> to encoding to .mp3
> (or other) results in kernel threads that are uninterruptable by user
> processes -- making the machine impossible to use for anything but the
> ripping process. I guess it's true...you can't have everything...but
> we're getting
> closer.
>
> Happy Hacking!
>
> CW
>
> --
>
> Chip Witt
> Sr. Network Administrator
> Westwave Communications
>
> 463 Aviation Blvd.
> Santa Rosa, CA 95403
> (V) 707-284-7237
> (F) 707-591-9413
> (E) chip.witt@westwave.com
>
> ________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________
>
> "Today, wealth is no longer best defined
> as ownership of land, goods, capital or
> labor. It is knowledge and knowing how to
> use it."
>
> Peter Drucker, 1988
> ________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________
>
> --
>
>
> From: David Wheeler <david@wheeler.net>
> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 11:19:48 AM America/Anchorage
> To: Charlie Watts <cewatts@frontier.net>
> Cc: YDL <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: pwrctl (was: Re: Hot complaints about YDL 2.1)
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On Mon Oct 29 2001 - 05:52:48 MST, Charlie Watts wrote:
>
>>> Nice to know that, but it doesn't seem to work for me -- nothing I put
>>> in /etc/power/pwrctl-local seems to execute. But it's nice to know
>>> that
>>> I can actually execute trackpad from the command line after waking up
>>> and not have to reboot in order to get the trackpad to behave itself
>>> again.
>
>> What model computer do you have? In YDL2, at least, the iBook 2 isn't
>> recognized by /etc/power/pwrctl.
>
> I have a PowerBook G4.
>
>> When I plug or un-plug power, or put it to sleep and wake it back up, I
>> got messages like this logged in /var/log/messages:
>
>> Oct 29 05:39:43 delerium pmud[318]: running /etc/power/pwrctl minimum
>> battery
>> Oct 29 05:39:43 delerium pwrctl: no function for PMU 12
>> Oct 29 05:39:46 delerium pmud[318]: running /etc/power/pwrctl maximum
>> ac
>> Oct 29 05:39:46 delerium pwrctl: no function for PMU 12
>
> I do see that last line in my messages.
>
>> I fixed this by adding PMU 12 to /etc/power/pwrctl:
>> On line 192, add "12" into the list of matches for pwrctl_G3.
>
> Done. But my problem persists, unfortunately.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions,
>
> David
>
> --
> David Wheeler AIM: dwTheory
> David@Wheeler.net ICQ: 15726394
> Yahoo!: dew7e
> Jabber: Theory@jabber.org
>
> From: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 11:25:31 AM America/Anchorage
> To: YDL <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Cc: Charlie Watts <cewatts@frontier.net>
> Subject: Re: pwrctl (was: Re: Hot complaints about YDL 2.1)
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
>>
>>> I fixed this by adding PMU 12 to /etc/power/pwrctl:
>>> On line 192, add "12" into the list of matches for pwrctl_G3.
>>
>> Done. But my problem persists, unfortunately.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions,
>>
>
> Odd chance, try restarting pmud:
> (as root) /sbin/service pmud restart
>
> -n
> --
> ......
> nathan hruby - nhruby@arches.uga.edu
> computer support specialist
> department of drama and theatre
> http://www.drama.uga.edu/
> ......
>
>
> From: David Wheeler <david@wheeler.net>
> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 11:37:27 AM America/Anchorage
> To: YDL <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Cc: Charlie Watts <cewatts@frontier.net>
> Subject: Re: pwrctl (was: Re: Hot complaints about YDL 2.1)
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On Thu, 2001-11-01 at 12:25, nathan r. hruby wrote:
>
>> Odd chance, try restarting pmud:
>> (as root) /sbin/service pmud restart
>
> Nope, that didn't help, either. the trackpad still doesn't work right
> after I put the PowerBook to sleep and then wake it up. Damn.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion,
>
> David
>
> --
> David Wheeler AIM: dwTheory
> David@Wheeler.net ICQ: 15726394
> Yahoo!: dew7e
> Jabber: Theory@jabber.org
>
> From: Joe Buczek <joe_buczek@yahoo.com>
> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 12:28:08 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Forward Delete Key on iBook 2001 (Icebook)
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Okay, so I now know that:
>
> o Mouse-2 is F11, and that
> o Mouse-3 is FN-F12, and that
> o ALT-CTL-Fn-Fn# does virtual terminal switching
>
> Where is the darn DEL key key sequence?? What
> combination of keys on the recently released iBook2
> (2001, IceBook) yields a forward delete (DEL) keycode
> in X?
>
> --Joe
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals.
> http://personals.yahoo.com
> From: Oscar Jack Marsh <oscarmarsh@mac.com>
> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 12:54:27 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: I typed "sbin/macos" as root...
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> ...and now Linux won't start at all - no orange splash screen at
> startup, no options - it just boots straight into Mac OS. Starting up
> from the rescue CD, I can get into Linux (orange screen, boot options)
> but I don't know what commands to use to get it working again.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Oscar Marsh
> -- --
> http://homepage.mac.com/oscarmarsh/
> Ya basta!
> From: dano <dano@well.com>
> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 07:27:23 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: Advice on Apple warranties and an iBook?
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> At 9:26 AM -0500 on 10/29/01, Matt Larson wrote:
>> An Apple hardware related question, semi off-topic but not that far
>> off: my iBook2 (500 mhz), which happily runs YDL, has developed a
>> slight discoloration in one horizontal line on the screen. It's
>> actually not that bad, but one problem leads to others, and I want the
>> machine I paid for. What I'd like to know is if anyone has had to
>> return a laptop to Apple, just to know what I'm in for. I'm very
>> annoyed, because I have spent a lot of time setting up a nice triple
>> boot (9, os10.1, YDL 2.0) and tweaking the YDL install (upgrading to
>> KDE 2.2.1, Gnome 1.4, etc.) and I don't want to have to reinstall
>> now. Will they send me a new one or repair my current one? Also, if
>> there's a good Apple-specific computer store around, do they do Apple
>> warranty repairs? The warranty card states that they are not
>> responsible for data, of course, and I guess that's to be expected.
>
> Matt,
>
> I work for an Apple repair center. Only Apple does repairs on
> PowerBooks or iBooks now, so if your machine is still under warranty
> you are better off sending it in yourself. If you take it to an
> authorized repair facility they will take the extra few days (in the
> sending and receiving processes) to do exactly what you would do.
>
> That being said, their turnaround (as noted by a previous poster)
> should be quick, depending on whether you are close to a metropolitan
> area or not. Slow only means an extra day or so *unless* they don't
> have a replacement screen in stock. (It sounds like you have a bad
> screen.) We recently had a TiG4/500 that was in Apple's shop for about
> 3 weeks while they waited for a back-ordered screen.
>
> The previous poster also recommended that you get the Apple extended
> warranty (I forget what they call it). You're eligible to buy it for up
> to one year following the new purchase, and it doesn't kick in until
> you call or the end of the first year of ownership. (I think that's
> right...)
>
> IMHO the $200 we pay (I paid when I bought a PowerBook for my mom) is
> worth it if the machine goes south.
>
> And they will only replace the hard drive if it needs to be replaced.
> Of course you should make a backup before sending the thing in. Leave
> the thing to boot into 9.1 or 9.2.1, or even X, but remove any password
> protection on those volumes. If they cannot start the machine to
> "test", i.e. view the screen, they'll erase the drive to get in to it.
>
> If you have any sensitive files, remove them. It sounds like you can
> see the screen just fine so I think you're right to take care of the
> problem before it gets worse.
>
> HTH,
>
> (the other) Dan
> -- Eddie would go...
> From: Bill Vinson <billvinson@mac.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 12:08:05 AM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Problems booting CD on iBook Dual USB
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Okay, I have now tried to burn cds for Yellow Dog 2.0, Mandrake 8.0,
> Debian PPC, and Linux PPC. The only one that would sort of boot is
> Linux PPC and it hung but at least it started booting. The others just
> continued to boot from the harddrive. I have tried holding down the
> 'c' and using OpenFirmware. I just can't believe that many CDs went
> bad. I don't know quite what to try. I got laid off recently so until
> I get a job I am not buying any official CDs :) It just seems odd that
> they are all failing. Can anyone give me any suggestions as to what to
> try next? I am a big fan of Debian but Yellow Dog looks quite nice.
> Any way to check the CD to find out what is going wrong? Only one of
> the Debian CD's would mount in Mac OS X, the YDL and Mandrake were
> never even recognized as being there. I am just running into a brick
> wall on this one. BTW, these were all burned on an x86 Redhat system
> with cdrecord if that matters :)
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> From: "Timothy A. Seufert" <tas@mindspring.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 11:53:21 AM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: Problems booting CD on iBook Dual USB
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> At 4:08 AM -0500 11/2/01, Bill Vinson wrote:
>> Okay, I have now tried to burn cds for Yellow Dog 2.0, Mandrake 8.0,
>> Debian PPC, and Linux PPC. The only one that would sort of boot is
>> Linux PPC and it hung but at least it started booting.
>
> Not surprising that it crashed, actually. LinuxPPC hasn't been updated
> in a long time (the rumor is that the company is dead, and we do know
> for sure they haven't communicated anything in a LONG time). Anyways,
> I'm not surprised the crusty old kernel included with LPPC 2K Q4 fails
> to boot on the new iBook, since that computer is newer than the
> distribution.
>
>> Any way to check the CD to find out what is going wrong? Only one of
>> the Debian CD's would mount in Mac OS X, the YDL and Mandrake were
>> never
>> even recognized as being there.
>
> Not familiar with Debian or Mandrake, but in the case of YDL the CD
> should be a hybrid HFS/ISO9660 CD and should mount in MacOS X. If it
> fails to do so, that may be an indication that the HFS filesystem
> structure is screwed up.
>
> Actually, looking at the relevant support files, it looks like OS X
> also supports ISO 9660 (as it should), so it isn't able to see either
> FS. You might take a look at /var/log/system.log to see if any errors
> are logged when you insert the CD.
>
>> I am just running into a brick wall on this one. BTW, these were all
>> burned on an x86 Redhat system with cdrecord if that matters :)
>
> The common YDL 2.0 burn error seen on this list was for people to use
> Toast on MacOS 8/9, mount the image, and burn a CD using the Mac
> files/folders mode, instead of burning the image directly. I assume
> that since you used cdrecord that doesn't apply, though.
> -- Tim Seufert
> From: Malayil Philip George <georgemp@mac.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 12:12:10 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: Problems booting CD on iBook Dual USB
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> hi,
> does cdrecord support HFS file systems? maybe this is the
> problem...on the pc side nero will and maybe the latest version of easy
> cd-creator pro. if mac os x isn't recognizing the discs i guess it's
> because of a burn error. but, if u are burning iso's they shoudl burn
> fine on a pc....u might have trouble with HFS/ISO hybrid images
>
>
> George
>
> On Saturday, November 3, 2001, at 02:23 AM, Timothy A. Seufert wrote:
>
>> At 4:08 AM -0500 11/2/01, Bill Vinson wrote:
>>> Okay, I have now tried to burn cds for Yellow Dog 2.0, Mandrake 8.0,
>>> Debian PPC, and Linux PPC. The only one that would sort of boot is
>>> Linux PPC and it hung but at least it started booting.
>>
>> Not surprising that it crashed, actually. LinuxPPC hasn't been
>> updated in a long time (the rumor is that the company is dead, and we
>> do know for sure they haven't communicated anything in a LONG time).
>> Anyways, I'm not surprised the crusty old kernel included with LPPC 2K
>> Q4 fails to boot on the new iBook, since that computer is newer than
>> the distribution.
>>
>>> Any way to check the CD to find out what is going wrong? Only one of
>>> the Debian CD's would mount in Mac OS X, the YDL and Mandrake were
>>> never
>>> even recognized as being there.
>>
>> Not familiar with Debian or Mandrake, but in the case of YDL the CD
>> should be a hybrid HFS/ISO9660 CD and should mount in MacOS X. If it
>> fails to do so, that may be an indication that the HFS filesystem
>> structure is screwed up.
>>
>> Actually, looking at the relevant support files, it looks like OS X
>> also supports ISO 9660 (as it should), so it isn't able to see either
>> FS. You might take a look at /var/log/system.log to see if any errors
>> are logged when you insert the CD.
>>
>>> I am just running into a brick wall on this one. BTW, these were all
>>> burned on an x86 Redhat system with cdrecord if that matters :)
>>
>> The common YDL 2.0 burn error seen on this list was for people to use
>> Toast on MacOS 8/9, mount the image, and burn a CD using the Mac
>> files/folders mode, instead of burning the image directly. I assume
>> that since you used cdrecord that doesn't apply, though.
>> -- Tim Seufert
>
> From: nathan hruby <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 12:27:53 PM America/Anchorage
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: Re: Problems booting CD on iBook Dual USB
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On 11/2/01 4:12 PM, "Malayil Philip George" <georgemp@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> hi,
>> does cdrecord support HFS file systems? maybe this is the
>> problem...on the pc side nero will and maybe the latest version of easy
>> cd-creator pro. if mac os x isn't recognizing the discs i guess it's
>> because of a burn error. but, if u are burning iso's they shoudl burn
>> fine on a pc....u might have trouble with HFS/ISO hybrid images
>>
>
> No, so long as you ISO image is good, the burning software just does a
> bit
> for bit copy from ISO to CD (including blank space).
>
> If you're running linux on a machine (somewhere I think in this thread
> it
> was stated the taosting machine was a linux x86 box, no?) you can
> preemptively mount the cd to check it with:
> mount -o loop -t iso9660 image.iso /path/to/mount/point
>
> Also check the md5 keys of the iso's to what you have via:
> md5sum image.iso
>
> (If you don't have md5sums and they're not on ftp.yellowdoglinux.com,
> LMK
> and I can generate sums for ponoma*.iso from mine)
>
> -n
> --
> nathan r. hruby
> uga drama & theatre
> nhruby@arches.uga.edu
> http://www.drama.uga.edu/
> 706.583.0045 (yes, that's a campus number)
>
>
>
> From: Alexander Holst <holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 01:24:25 AM America/Anchorage
> To: "Steve Kurlin" <skurlin@bigpond.net.au>, YDL General
> <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: RE: Slightly off-topic -- trash score RS6000 help!
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I'd appreciate some help/info on some hardware I#ve got sitting around
> here:
>
> I have two IBM RS 6000/250 reading 7011 Model 250 at the back, with the
> following on the front: 7011 44-99468 (machine1) and 7011 44-99469
> (machine2)
>
> The third box is an IBM RS 6000/340 reading only Type 7012 on tha back
> label and 7012 44-B0814 on top.
>
> Do you know whether any of these can run YDL?
>
> Any help appreciated. TIA
>
>
>
> Alexander Holst
> SysAdmin MacLabor Visuelle Kommunikation
> Pforzheim University of Applied Sciences
> Germany
> ph.: +49 [0]7231 28-6837
> fx.: +49 [0]7231 28-6040
> <holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
>
>
> From: "Michael Cozzi" <cozzi@cozziconsulting.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 02:57:38 AM America/Anchorage
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: Opinion?? Version 2.0?
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Have not been too active on this list... but have been watching
> since
> 1.2 was released.
>
> I tried version 1.2 when it was released and sort of "vetoed" it
> since I
> could not get it stable on some older hardware.
>
> However, with 2.0 this may be another story.
>
> So I'm wondering, is the 2.0 version ready for a production server?
>
> Currently I have a biege G3 tower (466Mhz 66Mhz FSB) which is
> running
> ASIP and as a simple page server/primary DNS, my cgi processing and
> secondary DNS is sitting on a Redhat 7.1 box. Would it make sense to
> move to
> YDL on the Mac server for the following:
>
> 1. Primary DNS
>
> 2. Page serving
>
> 3. MX service?
>
> 4. Webmin
>
> That is basically all the primary box has to do. I know it's not
> much,
> But I would hate to tear down the current machine without some feedback
> from
> people who know: "You".
>
> Thanks for any feedback. It is appreciated.
>
> --
> Michael Cozzi
> Senior Systems Engineer
>
>
> From: jeanachille <jeanachille@mac.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 04:00:41 AM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Connect but don't surf ?
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Hello to all from Corsica
>
> I use a YDL on A PBG3 Wall street, all it's okay except my connection
> to Internet.
>
> I use kppp, i get a ip addresse from my ISP but I' can surf.
> I use a opera software and I can the same error, host unknown.
>
> If I look on kppp "details" I saw that my internal modem don't receive
> any bytes.
>
> Where is the problem ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jean-Achille.
>
> -- --
> From: Black <cpa@ece.cmu.edu>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 04:56:28 AM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: Connect but don't surf ?
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
>
>
> I had a problem like this. What was causing it was that for some reason
> the default route to eth0 (ethernet port) didn't get changed when the
> modem logged on to something. Result was that anything looking for
> packets
> went to the ethernet port.
>
> Unfortunatly, I'm not sitting in front of m y machine at the moment,
> so I
> can't relate my fix. It involved a script that got run after ppppd got
> setup (I run pppd "raw", i.e. I just call it from the command line
> instead
> of mucking about with kppp which never worked for me...). There is
> probably an easier fix involving some config file somewhere, because 1.2
> never gave me the problem. The fix I use, which adds a new route
> everytime
> I dial in, just happened to be the first fix I found.
>
> Hopefully, this is enough to guide your web searches for information
> (how
> I found the fix), or for someone here to volenteer more information
> than I
> can provide at the moment.
>
> -Christopher Andrews
>
> On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, jeanachille wrote:
>
>> Hello to all from Corsica
>>
>> I use a YDL on A PBG3 Wall street, all it's okay except my connection
>> to Internet.
>>
>> I use kppp, i get a ip addresse from my ISP but I' can surf.
>> I use a opera software and I can the same error, host unknown.
>>
>> If I look on kppp "details" I saw that my internal modem don't
>> receive any bytes.
>>
>> Where is the problem ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Jean-Achille.
>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>
> From: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 05:35:20 AM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: Connect but don't surf ?
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
>
> It sounds like kppp isn't adding the DEFAULTROUTE flag to ppd's options.
> Use kppp to start you ppp connecion and then use the "route -n" command
> to
> see where your packets are destined (the -n flag will omit name
> lookups..
> handy of your netowrk connection isn't working and you can't get to a
> nameserver :)
>
> If it's not, check kppd's options to make sure it's passing the
> defaultroute flag and / or force the route with;
> "route add default ip.address.of.the.other.end.of.ppp.connection"
>
> Also, do check the info in /var/log/messages. If ppd is having an
> issue,
> that's where it'll end up being reported (typically in great detail :)
>
> It's been a while since I actually used ppp, so uhh.. the kppp stuff
> might
> be wring, and you may need to set the optons in /etc/ppp or something
>
> -n
>
> On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Black wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I had a problem like this. What was causing it was that for some reason
>> the default route to eth0 (ethernet port) didn't get changed when the
>> modem logged on to something. Result was that anything looking for
>> packets
>> went to the ethernet port.
>>
>> Unfortunatly, I'm not sitting in front of m y machine at the moment,
>> so I
>> can't relate my fix. It involved a script that got run after ppppd got
>> setup (I run pppd "raw", i.e. I just call it from the command line
>> instead
>> of mucking about with kppp which never worked for me...). There is
>> probably an easier fix involving some config file somewhere, because
>> 1.2
>> never gave me the problem. The fix I use, which adds a new route
>> everytime
>> I dial in, just happened to be the first fix I found.
>>
>> Hopefully, this is enough to guide your web searches for information
>> (how
>> I found the fix), or for someone here to volenteer more information
>> than I
>> can provide at the moment.
>>
>> -Christopher Andrews
>>
>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, jeanachille wrote:
>>
>>> Hello to all from Corsica
>>>
>>> I use a YDL on A PBG3 Wall street, all it's okay except my connection
>>> to Internet.
>>>
>>> I use kppp, i get a ip addresse from my ISP but I' can surf.
>>> I use a opera software and I can the same error, host unknown.
>>>
>>> If I look on kppp "details" I saw that my internal modem don't
>>> receive any bytes.
>>>
>>> Where is the problem ?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Jean-Achille.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>
>
> --
> ......
> nathan hruby - nhruby@arches.uga.edu
> computer support specialist
> department of drama and theatre
> http://www.drama.uga.edu/
> ......
>
>
> From: Brian Watson <bcwatso1@uiuc.edu>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 07:09:09 AM America/Anchorage
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: [OT] Apple Store T-shirts
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> If any of you have been to Apple Store openings and have a spare t-shirt
> (tube preferred but without tube still fine) that you would like to
> sell,
> please mail me off list. Thank you.
>
> --Brian
>
> From: Bob Beaton <bob@keyengine.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 08:39:04 AM America/Anchorage
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: PB G3, YDL 2.4.12a, & Sound--Do they play together?
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Hi,
>
> I've tried to get clear on the situation regarding support for sound
> on a
> Powerbook G3 running YDL 2.4.12a from the archives of this list, but I
> can't
> seem to find the answer. Can someone tell me if YDL 2.4.12a (or other
> kernel
> version) supports sound on a G3 Powerbook (Wallstreet version)? I've
> got the
> OS installed cleanly, but it doesn't want to initialize the sound
> driver:
> /dev/dsp. Hopefully I've just overlooked something simple.
>
> Many thanks!
> Bob Beaton
>
> From: cbsled@ncia.net
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 03:30:49 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: PB G3, YDL 2.4.12a, & Sound--Do they play together?
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On 11/02/01, at 12:39 PM, Bob Beaton <bob@keyengine.com> said:
>
>> Can someone tell me if YDL 2.4.12a (or other kernel
>> version) supports sound on a G3 Powerbook (Wallstreet version)?
>
> Sound under YDL 2.0 worked "out of the box" on my '98 G3 300 Wallstreet.
> Kernel is 2.2.something
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Carl Brown cbsled@ncia.net
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Support Organized Crime-
> Buy Microsoft products
>
> From: Oscar Jack Marsh <oscarmarsh@mac.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 10:23:31 AM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Startup problem on an iMac
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> I need to clarify my problem, so:
> I've only been running Linux for 2 weeks.
> My Mac is an iMac DV tangerine, the version of YDL is 2.0. I'm on Mac
> OS 9.1.
>
> Whilst I was logged in as root, I entered the following in a terminal:
>
> /sbin/macos/
>
> I know I shouldn't have done this, because it rebooted the computer and
> restarted into Mac OS, providing *no* Linux options. It simply flashed
> white and booted into Mac OS, like a normal Macintosh. Normally, Linux
> will flash a pinkish-orange screen then provide a white-text-on-black
> CLI, prompting Linux, Mac or CD booting. By default I set it at
> installation to boot Mac OS after a pause.
>
> So that's:
> - Mac boots into Mac OS, not Linux
> - No orange screen but instead a white screen
> - No options to get into Linux
>
> I can't get into Linux! Well, I can - by booting from the "Tasty
> Morsels" CD (The Installation disc won't boot and reads very sluggishly
> for some reason - it might be scratched, not sure)
>
> Does anyone know how to reverse this situation? I'm new to Linux but
> I'm learning. Apologies if this isn't clear enough for anyone and any
> help at all would be greatly welcomed and appreciated.
>
> Oscar Marsh
> -- --
> http://homepage.mac.com/oscarmarsh/
> Ya basta!
> From: Tim Clinton <clinton@ucalgary.ca>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 10:41:16 AM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: X server screen resolution
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
>
> I have a newly installed YDL 2.1 on Old World G3/266, Apple Multiple
> Scan 17" monitor.
>
> Upon login, the desktop appear to be a "virtual" 1024x768 on a 800x600
> screen. Moving the mouse off the edges of the monitor scrolls the
> desktop.
>
> I assume that there is a method of getting a true 1024x768 that the
> monitor supports. Any help/pointers would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> --
> Tim Clinton
> University Theatre Services, Faculty of FIne Arts
> 403.220.4375
>
> From: Bill Vinson <billvinson@mac.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 01:16:45 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: More info on the iBook booting problems
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Ok, I had checked the md5 on my iso and it didn't match what was on the
> server, but I had downloaded two copies of the iso with identical
> incorrect MD5 values. Now, I don't know whether they have a bad copy
> up or what, but their iso of fuji is only 17MB which I know is
> wrong :) I am downloading 2.1 iso off of ibiblio's mirror now and will
> check it's md5 and burn it. It seems to be getting a I/O when trying
> to mount or umount the disk. We shall soon see if the new one works
> better :)
>
> 'c' on boot should cause the cd to boot though, right?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> From: pH_______ <disck@home.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 03:12:12 PM America/Anchorage
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: will it work: YellowDog on a Starmax w/ G3 card?
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Hi,
> I'm new here, just wondering if it's possible to run YD on a Starmax
> 3000
> with a Newer 300mhz G3 card?
> thanks!
> -phil
>
> From: Cdowns <cdowns@skillsoft.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 03:27:29 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: will it work: YellowDog on a Starmax w/ G3 card?
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Let me know if it works out becuase i have a starmax 5000/300 that i
> would
> like to do that. I have been running linux for 4+ years but never tried
> this
> before. My guess is it will work with NP.
>
> good luck
>
> -D
>
> pH_______ wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm new here, just wondering if it's possible to run YD on a Starmax
>> 3000
>> with a Newer 300mhz G3 card?
>> thanks!
>> -phil
>
> From: ť›¨ Ř ›¨ť <thruzero@home.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 03:48:32 PM America/Anchorage
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: Re: will it work: YellowDog on a Starmax w/ G3 card?
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On 11/2/01 4:27 PM, "Cdowns" <cdowns@skillsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Let me know if it works out becuase i have a starmax 5000/300 that i
>> would
>> like to do that. I have been running linux for 4+ years but never
>> tried this
>> before. My guess is it will work with NP.
>>
>> good luck
>
> ok, i'll give it a try soon then, anybody have success using YD with ANY
> Newer(or other) G3 cards? That's the part i'm really concerned
> about--will
> YD see/use the G3 card?
>
> best,
> phil
>
>
>>
>> -D
>>
>> pH_______ wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm new here, just wondering if it's possible to run YD on a Starmax
>>> 3000
>>> with a Newer 300mhz G3 card?
>>> thanks!
>>> -phil
>>
>
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