Re: yellowdog-general Digest 4 Nov 2001 10:37:51 -0000 Issue 569


Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 4 Nov 2001 10:37:51 -0000 Issue 569
From: Ted Branscomb (tbranscomb@mosquitonet.com)
Date: Sun Nov 04 2001 - 03:34:44 MST


On Sunday, November 4, 2001, at 01:37 AM, yellowdog-general-digest-
help@lists.yellowdoglinux.com wrote:

>
> yellowdog-general Digest 4 Nov 2001 10:37:51 -0000 Issue 569
>
> Topics (messages 15559 through 15576):
>
> cdrom drive (round two)
> 15559 by: Mark Brethen <marbre@dhcp-159-66>
> 15566 by: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
> 15569 by: Mark Brethen <marbre@dhcp-159-66>
> 15570 by: Mark Brethen <marbre@dhcp-159-66>
> 15572 by: Charlie Watts <cewatts@frontier.net>
>
> YDL 2.1 install failure: transferring packages
> 15560 by: Stefan Jeglinski <jeglin@4pi.com>
> 15562 by: "Dan Calhoun" <dcalhoun15@home.com>
> 15567 by: Stefan Jeglinski <jeglin@4pi.com>
> 15571 by: Charlie Watts <cewatts@frontier.net>
> 15574 by: Stefan Jeglinski <jeglin@4pi.com>
>
> YDL 2.1 will not boot on my iBook Dual USB (ISO Questions)
> 15561 by: Bo Brinkman <brinkman@cs.princeton.edu>
>
> 2 simple ?s -- smtp configuration, Open Office install
> 15563 by: Jim Cole <greyleaf@yggdrasill.net>
> 15575 by: Marc Stergionis <stermarc@home.com>
>
> wallstreet/lombard question
> 15564 by: Jim Cole <greyleaf@yggdrasill.net>
>
> jaz drive questions
> 15565 by: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
>
> Can't get YD 2.1 to install
> 15568 by: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
>
> YDL 2.1 Kernel SCSI Generic problems
> 15573 by: <frazz@lump.mine.nu>
>
> yellowdog-general Digest 3 Nov 2001 01:02:51 -0000 Issue 566
> 15576 by: Ted Branscomb <tbranscomb@mosquitonet.com>
>
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> From: Mark Brethen <marbre@dhcp-159-66>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 04:24:02 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: cdrom drive (round two)
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Please help! I've installed YDL 2.1 and can't seem to be able to mount
> my
> internal cdrom. At bootup the kernel recognizes the device:
>
> hda: MATSHITA CR-585, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
> ide0 at 0xd3a85000-0xd3a85007,0xd3a85160 on irq 13
> hda: Enabling MultiWord DMA 1
> hda: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, DMA
> Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
>
> I've read in the archives that I must have the CD recognized as a scsi
> device
> using the kernel command line argument "hda=ide-scsi". However, I did a
> lsmod
> and the ide-scsi module isn't listed. Am I on the right track? Where
> can I
> find the ide-scsi module?
> --
>
> Mark Brethen
> mbrethen@rochester.rr.com
> From: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 06:39:18 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: cdrom drive (round two)
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Mark Brethen wrote:
>
>> Please help! I've installed YDL 2.1 and can't seem to be able to mount
>> my
>> internal cdrom. At bootup the kernel recognizes the device:
>>
>> hda: MATSHITA CR-585, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
>> ide0 at 0xd3a85000-0xd3a85007,0xd3a85160 on irq 13
>> hda: Enabling MultiWord DMA 1
>> hda: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, DMA
>> Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
>>
>> I've read in the archives that I must have the CD recognized as a scsi
>> device
>> using the kernel command line argument "hda=ide-scsi". However, I did
>> a lsmod
>> and the ide-scsi module isn't listed. Am I on the right track? Where
>> can I
>> find the ide-scsi module?
>>
>
> lsmod will only list modules currently inserted into the kernel. Try
> (as root) /sbin/insmod ide-scsi
>
> You can add append hda=ide-scsi to teh correct section in yaboot.conf to
> make this happen at eveyy boot (don't remember where exactly.. it's late
> and I'm on the Dell box whilst the PowerBook sleeps downstairs..)
>
> -n
> --
> ......
> nathan hruby - nhruby@arches.uga.edu
> computer support specialist
> department of drama and theatre
> http://www.drama.uga.edu/
> ......
>
>
> From: Mark Brethen <marbre@dhcp-159-66>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 07:47:38 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: cdrom drive (round two)
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On Saturday 03 November 2001 10:39, nathan hruby wrote:
>
>> lsmod will only list modules currently inserted into the kernel. Try
>> (as root) /sbin/insmod ide-scsi
>
> insmod: ide-scsi: no module by that name found -- but I did find the
> /proc/scsi/ide-scsi directory. Does that mean it's compiled into the
> kernel?
>
>> You can add append hda=ide-scsi to teh correct section in yaboot.conf
>> to
>> make this happen at eveyy boot (don't remember where exactly.. it's
>> late
>> and I'm on the Dell box whilst the PowerBook sleeps downstairs..)
>>
>> -n
>
> I'm using Xboot, should I add it in the command line in the Xboot
> Control
> panel?
> --
>
> Mark Brethen
> mbrethen@rochester.rr.com
> From: Mark Brethen <marbre@dhcp-159-66>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 07:49:10 PM America/Anchorage
> To: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
> Cc: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: cdrom drive (round two)
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On Saturday 03 November 2001 10:39, nathan r. hruby wrote:
>
>> lsmod will only list modules currently inserted into the kernel. Try
>> (as root) /sbin/insmod ide-scsi
>
> insmod: ide-scsi: no module by that name found -- but I did find the
> /proc/scsi/ide-scsi directory. Does that mean it's compiled into the
> kernel?
>
>> You can add append hda=ide-scsi to teh correct section in yaboot.conf
>> to
>> make this happen at eveyy boot (don't remember where exactly.. it's
>> late
>> and I'm on the Dell box whilst the PowerBook sleeps downstairs..)
>>
>> -n
>
> I'm using Xboot, should I add it in the command line in the Xboot
> Control
> panel?
> --
>
> Mark Brethen
> mbrethen@rochester.rr.com
> From: Charlie Watts <cewatts@frontier.net>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 08:20:42 PM America/Anchorage
> To: "yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com" <yellowdog-
> general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: Re: cdrom drive (round two)
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, nathan r. hruby wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Mark Brethen wrote:
>>
>>> Please help! I've installed YDL 2.1 and can't seem to be able to
>>> mount my
>>> internal cdrom. At bootup the kernel recognizes the device:
>>>
>>> hda: MATSHITA CR-585, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
>>> ide0 at 0xd3a85000-0xd3a85007,0xd3a85160 on irq 13
>>> hda: Enabling MultiWord DMA 1
>>> hda: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, DMA
>>> Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
>>>
>>> I've read in the archives that I must have the CD recognized as a
>>> scsi device
>>> using the kernel command line argument "hda=ide-scsi". However, I did
>>> a lsmod
>>> and the ide-scsi module isn't listed. Am I on the right track? Where
>>> can I
>>> find the ide-scsi module?
>>
>> lsmod will only list modules currently inserted into the kernel. Try
>> (as root) /sbin/insmod ide-scsi
>>
>> You can add append hda=ide-scsi to teh correct section in yaboot.conf
>> to
>> make this happen at eveyy boot (don't remember where exactly.. it's
>> late
>> and I'm on the Dell box whilst the PowerBook sleeps downstairs..)
>
> Why does it need the ide-scsi module to mount? You should only need the
> ide-scsi module to do CD Burning. Or -possibly- to watch DVD's ... Or
> perhaps it is a strange device.
>
> Have you tried, from the command line, "mount /dev/hda /mnt/cdrom" ? You
> might need to add "mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /mnt/cdrom" or "mount -t
> hfs
> /dev/hda /mnt/cdrom" depending ...
>
>
> If you do need the ide-scsi module, look at the end of the `dmesg`
> output
> after doing the insmod.
>
> --
> Charlie Watts
> cewatts@frontier.net
> Frontier Internet
> http://www.frontier.net/
>
> From: Stefan Jeglinski <jeglin@4pi.com>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 04:40:23 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: YDL 2.1 install failure: transferring packages
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On a 6500/300, with an ATI Rage Pro Video and Farallon 10/100 NIC,
> otherwise stock.
>
> 1. The BootX extension (1.2.3 I think) causes a debugger break at boot
> time. I figured this one out, but it would sure stop a newbie in
> his/her tracks.
>
> 2. The real problem is that when running the X11 installer, after
> having picked "workstation (recommended)," and during the phase where
> it is "transferring packages," after it has resolved dependencies,
> there is a sudden dialog that says:
>
> Error running transaction set.
> Please correct this manually (which leads to "package installed
> failed")
>
> Um... how?
>
>
> Stefan Jeglinski
>
> From: "Dan Calhoun" <dcalhoun15@home.com>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 05:04:15 PM America/Anchorage
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: Re: YDL 2.1 install failure: transferring packages
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> I have seen this also when trying to install YD2.1 any time there is an
> error and it give a report selecting debug causes a lock up, I have yet
> to
> be able to get this software installed on my 8500, it often locks when
> transferring packages or reoslving dependencies.......
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefan Jeglinski" <jeglin@4pi.com>
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 5:40 PM
> Subject: YDL 2.1 install failure: transferring packages
>
>
>> On a 6500/300, with an ATI Rage Pro Video and Farallon 10/100 NIC,
>> otherwise stock.
>>
>> 1. The BootX extension (1.2.3 I think) causes a debugger break at
>> boot time. I figured this one out, but it would sure stop a newbie in
>> his/her tracks.
>>
>> 2. The real problem is that when running the X11 installer, after
>> having picked "workstation (recommended)," and during the phase where
>> it is "transferring packages," after it has resolved dependencies,
>> there is a sudden dialog that says:
>>
>> Error running transaction set.
>> Please correct this manually (which leads to "package installed
>> failed")
>>
>> Um... how?
>>
>>
>> Stefan Jeglinski
>>
>
> From: Stefan Jeglinski <jeglin@4pi.com>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 06:48:01 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: YDL 2.1 install failure: transferring packages
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
>> I have seen this also when trying to install YD2.1 any time there is an
>> error and it give a report selecting debug causes a lock up, I have
>> yet to
>> be able to get this software installed on my 8500, it often locks when
>> transferring packages or reoslving dependencies.......
>
> I can also verify that there appears to be no way around it. I've now
> tried the minimum install. I've tried a custom install. I've tried the
> text install. I've even tried a second install CD I have. Always same
> result.
>
>> > 2. The real problem is that when running the X11 installer, after
>>> having picked "workstation (recommended)," and during the phase where
>>> it is "transferring packages," after it has resolved dependencies,
>>> there is a sudden dialog that says:
>>>
>>> Error running transaction set.
>> > Please correct this manually (which leads to "package installed
>> failed")
>
>
> So, I say to Terrasoft: I didn't buy support, so I'm limited to this
> list. I have a YDL 2.1 that will not install on a supported system
> (6500). I respectfully request that you provide a satisfactory solution
> (a reasonably prompt and workable fix, a refund, your choice).
>
>
> Stefan Jeglinski
> From: Charlie Watts <cewatts@frontier.net>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 08:14:28 PM America/Anchorage
> To: "yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com" <yellowdog-
> general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: Re: YDL 2.1 install failure: transferring packages
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> I had similar troubles in 2.0 ... no matter what install I chose, it
> would
> complain of insufficient disk space. I had an 8GB partition ...
>
> This was on a CD that had previously worked, though ... so I made
> another
> CD, and everything became OK.
>
> Media problems?
>
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Dan Calhoun wrote:
>
>> I have seen this also when trying to install YD2.1 any time there is an
>> error and it give a report selecting debug causes a lock up, I have
>> yet to
>> be able to get this software installed on my 8500, it often locks when
>> transferring packages or reoslving dependencies.......
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stefan Jeglinski" <jeglin@4pi.com>
>> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 5:40 PM
>> Subject: YDL 2.1 install failure: transferring packages
>>
>>
>>> On a 6500/300, with an ATI Rage Pro Video and Farallon 10/100 NIC,
>>> otherwise stock.
>>>
>>> 1. The BootX extension (1.2.3 I think) causes a debugger break at
>>> boot time. I figured this one out, but it would sure stop a newbie in
>>> his/her tracks.
>>>
>>> 2. The real problem is that when running the X11 installer, after
>>> having picked "workstation (recommended)," and during the phase where
>>> it is "transferring packages," after it has resolved dependencies,
>>> there is a sudden dialog that says:
>>>
>>> Error running transaction set.
>>> Please correct this manually (which leads to "package installed
>>> failed")
>>>
>>> Um... how?
>>>
>>>
>>> Stefan Jeglinski
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Charlie Watts
> cewatts@frontier.net
> Frontier Internet
> http://www.frontier.net/
>
> From: Stefan Jeglinski <jeglin@4pi.com>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 10:03:55 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: YDL 2.1 install failure: transferring packages
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
>> I had similar troubles in 2.0 ... no matter what install I chose, it
>> would
>> complain of insufficient disk space. I had an 8GB partition ...
>>
>> This was on a CD that had previously worked, though ... so I made
>> another
>> CD, and everything became OK.
>>
>> Media problems?
>
> That's my next step, to download the ISO and burn my own.
>
>
> Stefan Jeglinski
> From: Bo Brinkman <brinkman@cs.princeton.edu>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 04:50:15 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: YDL 2.1 will not boot on my iBook Dual USB (ISO Questions)
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> This is very bizarre. I tried several CD-RW media, and I could never
> get the 2.1 cd to boot. Then I tried using a CD-R, and it works just
> fine. Very very strange!
>
> Bo Brinkman wrote:
>
>>> I can confirm that the fuji 2.1 ISO on ftp.yellowdoglinux.com was
>>> only 18 MB previously and is only 52 MB now. There are also no 2.1
>>> RPMS on ftp.yellowdoglinux.com. However, working with a friend, we
>>> downloaded the fuji 2.1 ISO from ftp.ibiblio.org which was the full
>>> size (the 2.1 RPMS were also all out there), and verified the md5sum.
>> The psu mirror has the complete iso, and the md5sum checks, as I said
>> before, so this is not my problem.
>> <snip advice>
>> Yes, I know that these are the most common newbie problems. I don't
>> think that I fell into any of these traps though. :) I have been using
>> YDL since 1.2.1, and have not had any problems in the past of this
>> sort. I certainly don't use MacOS to burn CDs, so that should not be a
>> problem.
>> One thing about my setup: I have OS X.1 and 9.2.1 installed on my
>> machine. Is it possible that something changed in open firmware or the
>> disk drivers?
>> Could people please email me 1) Whether or not they have had success
>> with a burned 2.1 and 2) What the latest version of MacOS they had
>> installed was?
>> I'm grasping at straws, but I thought about the usual problems, and I
>> don't seem to have any of them. :(
>
>
> -- William "Bo" Brinkman
> brinkman@cs.princeton.edu
> Princeton Computer Science http://www.derandomized.org/
> -- Silence is Golden. --Mic-O-Say proverb
>
> From: Jim Cole <greyleaf@yggdrasill.net>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 05:21:56 PM America/Anchorage
> To: YellowDogLinux <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: Re: 2 simple ?s -- smtp configuration, Open Office install
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Marc Stergionis's bits of Sat, 3 Nov 2001 translated to:
>
>> I am receiving mail fine (KMail) but have not been able to send. Of
>> course in Mac OS, configuring SMTP for use with the @home broadband
>> service requires you only put the word "mail" in your pop/inbound
>> setup field and the word "mail" in the smtp/outbound field.
>>
>> This, of course, does not work in KMail. Neither does smtp.home.com
>> nor smtp.grtfls1.mt.home.com (what we've been given as an alternate).
>>
>> What *do* I put in there??? BTW, the other smtp setup field defaults
>> to port 25, which I've left that way.
>
> Have you tried mail.grtfls1.mt.home.com for both ? This name does
> resolve. If your @Home service is set up similar to mine, this
> should be equivalent entering only 'mail' in both fields.
>
>
> Jim
>
> From: Marc Stergionis <stermarc@home.com>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 10:54:33 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: 2 simple ?s -- smtp configuration, Open Office install
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Sometime around Saturday 03 November 2001 07:21, Jim Cole pounded out
> this
> ditty:
>> Marc Stergionis's bits of Sat, 3 Nov 2001 translated to:
>>> I am receiving mail fine (KMail) but have not been able to send. Of
>>> course in Mac OS, configuring SMTP for use with the @home broadband
>>> service requires you only put the word "mail" in your pop/inbound
>>> setup field and the word "mail" in the smtp/outbound field.
>>>
>>> This, of course, does not work in KMail. Neither does smtp.home.com
>>> nor smtp.grtfls1.mt.home.com (what we've been given as an alternate).
>
>>
>> Have you tried mail.grtfls1.mt.home.com for both ? This name does
>> resolve. If your @Home service is set up similar to mine, this
>> should be equivalent entering only 'mail' in both fields.
>
> Well, as promised, I say "Doh"! Of course, using mail.grtfls1.home.com
> for
> both fields work... that's how I've sent this :)
>
> Thanks JIm ...
>
> On my second question ... Open Office finally did install,
> but when running "./soffice" I get Segmentation Fault ... and
> double-clicking
> the icon does nothing. What now?
> From: Jim Cole <greyleaf@yggdrasill.net>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 05:50:52 PM America/Anchorage
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: Re: wallstreet/lombard question
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Ron Smith's bits of Sat, 3 Nov 2001 translated to:
>
>> brought up the G3 PowerBooks. I have not been able to get a workable
>> installation of Linux on mine (Black Keyboard, Wallstreet). It's the
>> same problem every time. I've gotten further with YDL 2.0/2.1 I still
>> have video problems.
> [snip]
>>
>> 3. When I try the text only YDL installer, the display goes blank
>
> Have you tried hitting the key that adjusts brightness a few
> times while booting? There was a similar screen blanking problem
> with the Lombards when using an older distribution.
>
>> 4. I have tried all the combinations I know of for the "force video"
>> and
>> "no video driver" in BootX
>
> I think you want to stick with plain ol' 'no video driver' until
> you have a working system with a usable console.
>
>> 5. The display works fine in Mac OS 9, I booted into it to adjust the
>> brightness/contrast, but that didn't help the linux display.
>>
>> I've had great success on my "new world" machines, a non-firewire iBook
>> SE, and a G4/500DP (although no SMP yet). I would be happy to just get
>> this Wallstreet runnin linux in a text mode, I don't need to run X on
>> it
>
> I don't have experience with YDL 2.0/2.1 on a Wallstreet, but I
> did install 1.2 for someone who had one of these machines. I
> didn't experience any significant problems with the install and
> with appropriate BootX video settings I was able to get X
> running.
>
> Have you tried installing with 'no video driver' selected and
> using the text mode install? This seems like it would be the
> safest.
>
>
> Jim
>
> From: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 06:24:43 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: jaz drive questions
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Mark Brethen wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks, that does it. However, when I try to eject a disk using 'eject
>> /mnt/jaz/hfs', I get the following response:
>>
>> eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
>>
>> using 'eject /dev/sdc' I get:
>>
>> eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/sdc'
>>
>> any thoughts on this? The manual entry says that if eject does not
>> work, it
>> is most likely a limitation of the kernel driver for the device and
>> not the
>> eject program itself.
>>
>
> Dunno. I normally use the eject button :) My thought is that you
> should
> namually umount the drives first and then try a "eject -s /dev/sdc"
>
>>> Also look into autofs (man autofs should tell you everything you need
>>> to
>>> know), which will automatically mount the drive whenever you use it,
>>> useful if you're flipping Jaz carts around a lot. Less load then the
>>> tradtional amd. It's easy to setup and should be compiled into the
>>> kernel
>>> already. Also handy for floppies :)
>>>
>>> -n
>>
>> I dont have a manual entry for autofs. What now?
>>
>
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Automount.html
>
> I checked the YDL-2.1 install cd list from the YDL website and autofs is
> listed there, you may need to install it by hand from the CD, as I'm not
> sure about how the YDL installer devines what packages it sould and
> shouldn't install.. This might be mhy you don't have a man page, it's
> not
> installed! :)
>
> -n (er.. well.. the other nathan?)
>
> --
> ......
> nathan hruby - nhruby@arches.uga.edu
> computer support specialist
> department of drama and theatre
> http://www.drama.uga.edu/
> ......
>
>
> From: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 07:16:07 PM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: Can't get YD 2.1 to install
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
>
> Oh crap.. another nathan! ;-)
>
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Nathan A. McQuillen wrote:
>
>>
>> N,
>>
>> Ethernet problem is YDL on my beige G3. I don't have time right this
>> minute to elaborate on the problem but point is I was using a Farallon
>> 10/100 card before I upgraded the kernel and now it doesn't work. Not a
>> big deal but it's a bit frustrating -- I believe I was using a 3c509
>> driver before but again I don't recall exactly and I'll have to do a
>> little more research and get back to you.
>>
>
> Ahh.. sorry. was thinking of something else.
>
>> - N.
>>
>> PS - I like the glowing things too, but not when they're eating
>> processor
>> cycles that could be spent giving me my *$&%^ console. I'm sure 10.1 is
>> much better. :P
>>
>
> Umm.. sure ;-)
>
> -n
> --
> ......
> nathan hruby - nhruby@arches.uga.edu
> computer support specialist
> department of drama and theatre
> http://www.drama.uga.edu/
> ......
>
>
> From: <frazz@lump.mine.nu>
> Date: Sat Nov 03, 2001 09:43:58 PM America/Anchorage
> To: Yellow Dog Linux General List <yellowdog-
> general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> Subject: YDL 2.1 Kernel SCSI Generic problems
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Well I just used the yup and mirror method to updating, and well...
> everything is working... except I am having trouble with SCSI generic.
> Specificly this is noticable when I start up the CD player it hangs
> unless
> I have a CD in the drive? Any solution to this. Using an older Poermac
> 7500 g3 upgraded. Still have the CDROM hooked up to the internal MESH
> SCSI-2 bus. Any ideas?
>
> -Frazz
>
> From: Ted Branscomb <tbranscomb@mosquitonet.com>
> Date: Sun Nov 04, 2001 01:25:36 AM America/Anchorage
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 3 Nov 2001 01:02:51 -0000 Issue
> 566
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> take me off this list
> On Friday, November 2, 2001, at 04:02 PM, yellowdog-general-digest-
> help@lists.yellowdoglinux.com wrote:
>
>>
>> yellowdog-general Digest 3 Nov 2001 01:02:51 -0000 Issue 566
>>
>> Topics (messages 15469 through 15498):
>>
>> Display set up assistenace
>> 15469 by: "Ralph Frisbie" <rfrisbie@vcnet.com>
>>
>> quad daystar genesis
>> 15470 by: George Herndon <gherndon@eyeontech.com>
>>
>> 2.4.12-benh0 on Powerbook G4 (Titanium) 500
>> 15471 by: Chip Witt <chip.witt@westwave.com>
>> 15472 by: "Timothy A. Seufert" <tas@mindspring.com>
>> 15478 by: Neill Miller <neillm@thecodefactory.org>
>> 15487 by: Chip Witt <chip.witt@westwave.com>
>>
>> pwrctl (was: Re: Hot complaints about YDL 2.1)
>> 15473 by: David Wheeler <david@wheeler.net>
>> 15474 by: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
>> 15475 by: David Wheeler <david@wheeler.net>
>>
>> Forward Delete Key on iBook 2001 (Icebook)
>> 15476 by: Joe Buczek <joe_buczek@yahoo.com>
>>
>> I typed "sbin/macos" as root...
>> 15477 by: Oscar Jack Marsh <oscarmarsh@mac.com>
>>
>> Advice on Apple warranties and an iBook?
>> 15479 by: dano <dano@well.com>
>>
>> Problems booting CD on iBook Dual USB
>> 15480 by: Bill Vinson <billvinson@mac.com>
>> 15491 by: "Timothy A. Seufert" <tas@mindspring.com>
>> 15492 by: Malayil Philip George <georgemp@mac.com>
>> 15493 by: nathan hruby <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
>>
>> Slightly off-topic -- trash score RS6000 help!
>> 15481 by: Alexander Holst <holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
>>
>> Opinion?? Version 2.0?
>> 15482 by: "Michael Cozzi" <cozzi@cozziconsulting.com>
>>
>> Connect but don't surf ?
>> 15483 by: jeanachille <jeanachille@mac.com>
>> 15484 by: Black <cpa@ece.cmu.edu>
>> 15485 by: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
>>
>> [OT] Apple Store T-shirts
>> 15486 by: Brian Watson <bcwatso1@uiuc.edu>
>>
>> PB G3, YDL 2.4.12a, & Sound--Do they play together?
>> 15488 by: Bob Beaton <bob@keyengine.com>
>> 15497 by: cbsled@ncia.net
>>
>> Startup problem on an iMac
>> 15489 by: Oscar Jack Marsh <oscarmarsh@mac.com>
>>
>> X server screen resolution
>> 15490 by: Tim Clinton <clinton@ucalgary.ca>
>>
>> More info on the iBook booting problems
>> 15494 by: Bill Vinson <billvinson@mac.com>
>>
>> will it work: YellowDog on a Starmax w/ G3 card?
>> 15495 by: pH_______ <disck@home.com>
>> 15496 by: Cdowns <cdowns@skillsoft.com>
>> 15498 by: ˘ıÆ ˇ ıÆ˘ <thruzero@home.com>
>>
>> Administrivia:
>>
>> To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
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>>
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>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Ralph Frisbie" <rfrisbie@vcnet.com>
>> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 09:29:11 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>> Subject: Display set up assistenace
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> ††† I've installed† 2.1 on a MAC G-4 with a Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 73
>> monitor.†† One serious problem:
>> †
>> ††† The graphical display is not centered and it flickers at a high
>> rate.† The
>> automatic install† does not list a 73, so I've tried with the numbers
>> close
>> to it,† 100, 71, etc.† with no difference.†† I tried running xvidtune,
>> but it apparently does not work, says default requests - mode-line
>> error
>> (on the default configuration it comes up with)
>> †
>> ††† I hope that a manual editing of† /etc/X11/XF86Config might fix
>> problem,
>> but I don't know enough to do that.† Anybody got any ideas?†
>> †
>> ††† Help.
>> ††† ††† ††† ††† ††† ††† Thanks,
>> ††† ††† ††† ††† ††† ††† ††† ††† Ralph
>> From: George Herndon <gherndon@eyeontech.com>
>> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 09:43:30 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: cacc@yahoogroups.com
>> Cc: suse-ppc@suse.com, yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: quad daystar genesis
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> if anyone is interested in buying a quad daystar genesis running
>> linux, please email me off-list.
>>
>> thx,
>>
>> george
>>
>> From: Chip Witt <chip.witt@westwave.com>
>> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 09:58:43 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: 2.4.12-benh0 on Powerbook G4 (Titanium) 500
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> Greetings again. I apologize if this is a bit "fringe", but I'm hoping
>> someone out there can help me with my new question.
>>
>> Background:
>>
>> Recently purchased a new Powerbook G4 500 and got Yellow Dog 2.1 up and
>> running on it (after a lot of work and help from some of you). There
>> were some difficulties with the stock 2.4.10-12a kernel with
>> recognizing
>> the DVD/CD-ROM drive, which prevented me from being able to mount any
>> CDs. Knew that going in, but want to reap the benefits of the 2.4
>> kernel, so I refused to follow Dan Burkaw's advice and stay down with
>> the 2.2 kernel (which has no device problems on my particular machine).
>>
>> Issue(s):
>>
>> After getting all but the CD/DVD drive working under the stock YD 2.1
>> kernel, I downloaded and installed Ben H.'s latest stabe (2.4.12-benh0)
>> from the ppckernel.org Web site. Came up without a hitch, and I can now
>> mount data CDs and read them, but cannot play (mount, or rip) music
>> CDs.
>> I'm also getting strange gdm crashes, but I'm less concerned with that
>> (especially since I can start at run-level 3 and manually 'startx'
>> without the gdm crash problem inhibiting my work).
>>
>> Plea:
>>
>> Does anyone have a clue as to what is going on with playing (or not
>> being able to) music CDs. Obviously, this makes the machine less fun as
>> a multimedia machine.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> CW
>>
>> PS -- As a side note, if anyone knows of another forum wherein this
>> question may be more appropriate, please pass along that info.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Chip Witt
>> Sr. Network Administrator
>> Westwave Communications
>>
>> 463 Aviation Blvd.
>> Santa Rosa, CA 95403
>> (V) 707-284-7237
>> (F) 707-591-9413
>> (E) chip.witt@westwave.com
>>
>> ________________________________________________________
>> ________________________________________________________
>>
>> "Today, wealth is no longer best defined
>> as ownership of land, goods, capital or
>> labor. It is knowledge and knowing how to
>> use it."
>>
>> Peter Drucker, 1988
>> ________________________________________________________
>> ________________________________________________________
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> From: "Timothy A. Seufert" <tas@mindspring.com>
>> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 10:56:02 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Re: 2.4.12-benh0 on Powerbook G4 (Titanium) 500
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> At 10:58 AM -0800 11/1/01, Chip Witt wrote:
>>
>>> PS -- As a side note, if anyone knows of another forum wherein this
>>> question may be more appropriate, please pass along that info.
>>
>> Since it's a benh kernel, you should probably ask Ben H. :) He'd
>> know if there were any kernel issues.
>>
>> BTW you say you can't even mount or rip audio CDs? I just remembered
>> that the PB G4 (like all other recent Apple models) does not have a
>> path for analog audio output from the CD or DVD to get to an analog
>> mixer which mixes it with output from the sound chip (unlike older
>> Macs and PC sound cards). Instead, the CD player program has to rip
>> the audio data from the CD and feed it to the sound chip. I'm not
>> sure any Linux CD player programs support this process yet.
>> -- Tim Seufert
>> From: Neill Miller <neillm@thecodefactory.org>
>> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 05:22:23 PM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Re: 2.4.12-benh0 on Powerbook G4 (Titanium) 500
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:58:43 -0800
>> Chip Witt <chip.witt@westwave.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have a clue as to what is going on with playing (or not
>>> being able to) music CDs. Obviously, this makes the machine less fun
>>> as
>>> a multimedia machine.
>>
>> Hello,
>> I've never tried this under YDL and don't have my CD player
>> around to slip into the media bay for testing, but under Linux/PPC,
>> playing audio CDs worked on my Powerbook G3 Firewire (Pismo) with the
>> following command:
>>
>> cdparanoia 1- -Z - | play -t wav - <--- don't forget the "-" at the
>> end!
>>
>> Since it was cumbersome to type, I set up an alias like this in
>> my .bashrc (assuming you run bash as your default shell):
>>
>> alias gocd='cdparanoia 1- -Z - | play -t wav -'
>>
>> I hope that works for you. The lack of track selection isn't too
>> good, but it was the best solution I had found when I looked almost a
>> year ago.
>>
>> -Neill.
>>
>> --
>> http://www.thecodefactory.org/neillm
>> From: Chip Witt <chip.witt@westwave.com>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 07:48:03 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Re: 2.4.12-benh0 on Powerbook G4 (Titanium) 500
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> Actually, The problem was specific to the drive needing ATAPI SCSI
>> emulation to function properly. I will describe what worked to fix the
>> problem...
>>
>> In /etc/yaboot.conf I added the "append" line:
>>
>> <snipped normal stuff from top of file>
>>
>> # yaboot images
>> image=/boot/vmlinux
>> label=linux
>> root=/dev/hda4
>> append="hdc=ide-scsi"
>>
>> Then I had to make the /dev/sr0 device:
>>
>> mknod /dev/sr0 b 11 0
>> chgrp disk /dev/sr0
>> chmod 666 /dev/sr0 # so anyone can use
>>
>> Fixed the symlink to /dev/cdrom:
>>
>> ln -sf /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom
>>
>> Voila! Music for the masses (and ripping too). The only thing I've
>> found to be wonky about this particular solution is, unlike on my x86
>> laptop with traditional ATAPI control, ripping CD tracks to .wav prior
>> to encoding to .mp3
>> (or other) results in kernel threads that are uninterruptable by user
>> processes -- making the machine impossible to use for anything but the
>> ripping process. I guess it's true...you can't have everything...but
>> we're getting
>> closer.
>>
>> Happy Hacking!
>>
>> CW
>>
>> --
>>
>> Chip Witt
>> Sr. Network Administrator
>> Westwave Communications
>>
>> 463 Aviation Blvd.
>> Santa Rosa, CA 95403
>> (V) 707-284-7237
>> (F) 707-591-9413
>> (E) chip.witt@westwave.com
>>
>> ________________________________________________________
>> ________________________________________________________
>>
>> "Today, wealth is no longer best defined
>> as ownership of land, goods, capital or
>> labor. It is knowledge and knowing how to
>> use it."
>>
>> Peter Drucker, 1988
>> ________________________________________________________
>> ________________________________________________________
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> From: David Wheeler <david@wheeler.net>
>> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 11:19:48 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: Charlie Watts <cewatts@frontier.net>
>> Cc: YDL <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>> Subject: pwrctl (was: Re: Hot complaints about YDL 2.1)
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> On Mon Oct 29 2001 - 05:52:48 MST, Charlie Watts wrote:
>>
>>>> Nice to know that, but it doesn't seem to work for me -- nothing I
>>>> put
>>>> in /etc/power/pwrctl-local seems to execute. But it's nice to know
>>>> that
>>>> I can actually execute trackpad from the command line after waking up
>>>> and not have to reboot in order to get the trackpad to behave itself
>>>> again.
>>
>>> What model computer do you have? In YDL2, at least, the iBook 2 isn't
>>> recognized by /etc/power/pwrctl.
>>
>> I have a PowerBook G4.
>>
>>> When I plug or un-plug power, or put it to sleep and wake it back
>>> up, I
>>> got messages like this logged in /var/log/messages:
>>
>>> Oct 29 05:39:43 delerium pmud[318]: running /etc/power/pwrctl minimum
>>> battery
>>> Oct 29 05:39:43 delerium pwrctl: no function for PMU 12
>>> Oct 29 05:39:46 delerium pmud[318]: running /etc/power/pwrctl maximum
>>> ac
>>> Oct 29 05:39:46 delerium pwrctl: no function for PMU 12
>>
>> I do see that last line in my messages.
>>
>>> I fixed this by adding PMU 12 to /etc/power/pwrctl:
>>> On line 192, add "12" into the list of matches for pwrctl_G3.
>>
>> Done. But my problem persists, unfortunately.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions,
>>
>> David
>>
>> --
>> David Wheeler AIM: dwTheory
>> David@Wheeler.net ICQ: 15726394
>> Yahoo!: dew7e
>> Jabber:
>> Theory@jabber.org
>>
>> From: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
>> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 11:25:31 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: YDL <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>> Cc: Charlie Watts <cewatts@frontier.net>
>> Subject: Re: pwrctl (was: Re: Hot complaints about YDL 2.1)
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>>>
>>>> I fixed this by adding PMU 12 to /etc/power/pwrctl:
>>>> On line 192, add "12" into the list of matches for pwrctl_G3.
>>>
>>> Done. But my problem persists, unfortunately.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestions,
>>>
>>
>> Odd chance, try restarting pmud:
>> (as root) /sbin/service pmud restart
>>
>> -n
>> --
>> ......
>> nathan hruby - nhruby@arches.uga.edu
>> computer support specialist
>> department of drama and theatre
>> http://www.drama.uga.edu/
>> ......
>>
>>
>> From: David Wheeler <david@wheeler.net>
>> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 11:37:27 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: YDL <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>> Cc: Charlie Watts <cewatts@frontier.net>
>> Subject: Re: pwrctl (was: Re: Hot complaints about YDL 2.1)
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> On Thu, 2001-11-01 at 12:25, nathan r. hruby wrote:
>>
>>> Odd chance, try restarting pmud:
>>> (as root) /sbin/service pmud restart
>>
>> Nope, that didn't help, either. the trackpad still doesn't work right
>> after I put the PowerBook to sleep and then wake it up. Damn.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion,
>>
>> David
>>
>> --
>> David Wheeler AIM: dwTheory
>> David@Wheeler.net ICQ: 15726394
>> Yahoo!: dew7e
>> Jabber:
>> Theory@jabber.org
>>
>> From: Joe Buczek <joe_buczek@yahoo.com>
>> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 12:28:08 PM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Forward Delete Key on iBook 2001 (Icebook)
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> Okay, so I now know that:
>>
>> o Mouse-2 is F11, and that
>> o Mouse-3 is FN-F12, and that
>> o ALT-CTL-Fn-Fn# does virtual terminal switching
>>
>> Where is the darn DEL key key sequence?? What
>> combination of keys on the recently released iBook2
>> (2001, IceBook) yields a forward delete (DEL) keycode
>> in X?
>>
>> --Joe
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals.
>> http://personals.yahoo.com
>> From: Oscar Jack Marsh <oscarmarsh@mac.com>
>> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 12:54:27 PM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: I typed "sbin/macos" as root...
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> ...and now Linux won't start at all - no orange splash screen at
>> startup, no options - it just boots straight into Mac OS. Starting up
>> from the rescue CD, I can get into Linux (orange screen, boot options)
>> but I don't know what commands to use to get it working again.
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Oscar Marsh
>> -- --
>> http://homepage.mac.com/oscarmarsh/
>> Ya basta!
>> From: dano <dano@well.com>
>> Date: Thu Nov 01, 2001 07:27:23 PM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Re: Advice on Apple warranties and an iBook?
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> At 9:26 AM -0500 on 10/29/01, Matt Larson wrote:
>>> An Apple hardware related question, semi off-topic but not that far
>>> off: my iBook2 (500 mhz), which happily runs YDL, has developed a
>>> slight discoloration in one horizontal line on the screen. It's
>>> actually not that bad, but one problem leads to others, and I want
>>> the machine I paid for. What I'd like to know is if anyone has had
>>> to return a laptop to Apple, just to know what I'm in for. I'm very
>>> annoyed, because I have spent a lot of time setting up a nice triple
>>> boot (9, os10.1, YDL 2.0) and tweaking the YDL install (upgrading to
>>> KDE 2.2.1, Gnome 1.4, etc.) and I don't want to have to reinstall
>>> now. Will they send me a new one or repair my current one? Also, if
>>> there's a good Apple-specific computer store around, do they do Apple
>>> warranty repairs? The warranty card states that they are not
>>> responsible for data, of course, and I guess that's to be expected.
>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> I work for an Apple repair center. Only Apple does repairs on
>> PowerBooks or iBooks now, so if your machine is still under warranty
>> you are better off sending it in yourself. If you take it to an
>> authorized repair facility they will take the extra few days (in the
>> sending and receiving processes) to do exactly what you would do.
>>
>> That being said, their turnaround (as noted by a previous poster)
>> should be quick, depending on whether you are close to a metropolitan
>> area or not. Slow only means an extra day or so *unless* they don't
>> have a replacement screen in stock. (It sounds like you have a bad
>> screen.) We recently had a TiG4/500 that was in Apple's shop for about
>> 3 weeks while they waited for a back-ordered screen.
>>
>> The previous poster also recommended that you get the Apple extended
>> warranty (I forget what they call it). You're eligible to buy it for
>> up to one year following the new purchase, and it doesn't kick in
>> until you call or the end of the first year of ownership. (I think
>> that's right...)
>>
>> IMHO the $200 we pay (I paid when I bought a PowerBook for my mom) is
>> worth it if the machine goes south.
>>
>> And they will only replace the hard drive if it needs to be replaced.
>> Of course you should make a backup before sending the thing in. Leave
>> the thing to boot into 9.1 or 9.2.1, or even X, but remove any
>> password protection on those volumes. If they cannot start the machine
>> to "test", i.e. view the screen, they'll erase the drive to get in to
>> it.
>>
>> If you have any sensitive files, remove them. It sounds like you can
>> see the screen just fine so I think you're right to take care of the
>> problem before it gets worse.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> (the other) Dan
>> -- Eddie would go...
>> From: Bill Vinson <billvinson@mac.com>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 12:08:05 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Problems booting CD on iBook Dual USB
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> Okay, I have now tried to burn cds for Yellow Dog 2.0, Mandrake 8.0,
>> Debian PPC, and Linux PPC. The only one that would sort of boot is
>> Linux PPC and it hung but at least it started booting. The others
>> just continued to boot from the harddrive. I have tried holding down
>> the 'c' and using OpenFirmware. I just can't believe that many CDs
>> went bad. I don't know quite what to try. I got laid off recently so
>> until I get a job I am not buying any official CDs :) It just seems
>> odd that they are all failing. Can anyone give me any suggestions as
>> to what to try next? I am a big fan of Debian but Yellow Dog looks
>> quite nice. Any way to check the CD to find out what is going wrong?
>> Only one of the Debian CD's would mount in Mac OS X, the YDL and
>> Mandrake were never even recognized as being there. I am just running
>> into a brick wall on this one. BTW, these were all burned on an x86
>> Redhat system with cdrecord if that matters :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>>
>> From: "Timothy A. Seufert" <tas@mindspring.com>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 11:53:21 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Re: Problems booting CD on iBook Dual USB
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> At 4:08 AM -0500 11/2/01, Bill Vinson wrote:
>>> Okay, I have now tried to burn cds for Yellow Dog 2.0, Mandrake 8.0,
>>> Debian PPC, and Linux PPC. The only one that would sort of boot is
>>> Linux PPC and it hung but at least it started booting.
>>
>> Not surprising that it crashed, actually. LinuxPPC hasn't been
>> updated in a long time (the rumor is that the company is dead, and we
>> do know for sure they haven't communicated anything in a LONG time).
>> Anyways, I'm not surprised the crusty old kernel included with LPPC 2K
>> Q4 fails to boot on the new iBook, since that computer is newer than
>> the distribution.
>>
>>> Any way to check the CD to find out what is going wrong? Only one of
>>> the Debian CD's would mount in Mac OS X, the YDL and Mandrake were
>>> never
>>> even recognized as being there.
>>
>> Not familiar with Debian or Mandrake, but in the case of YDL the CD
>> should be a hybrid HFS/ISO9660 CD and should mount in MacOS X. If it
>> fails to do so, that may be an indication that the HFS filesystem
>> structure is screwed up.
>>
>> Actually, looking at the relevant support files, it looks like OS X
>> also supports ISO 9660 (as it should), so it isn't able to see either
>> FS. You might take a look at /var/log/system.log to see if any errors
>> are logged when you insert the CD.
>>
>>> I am just running into a brick wall on this one. BTW, these were all
>>> burned on an x86 Redhat system with cdrecord if that matters :)
>>
>> The common YDL 2.0 burn error seen on this list was for people to use
>> Toast on MacOS 8/9, mount the image, and burn a CD using the Mac
>> files/folders mode, instead of burning the image directly. I assume
>> that since you used cdrecord that doesn't apply, though.
>> -- Tim Seufert
>> From: Malayil Philip George <georgemp@mac.com>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 12:12:10 PM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Re: Problems booting CD on iBook Dual USB
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> hi,
>> does cdrecord support HFS file systems? maybe this is the
>> problem...on the pc side nero will and maybe the latest version of
>> easy cd-creator pro. if mac os x isn't recognizing the discs i guess
>> it's because of a burn error. but, if u are burning iso's they shoudl
>> burn fine on a pc....u might have trouble with HFS/ISO hybrid images
>>
>>
>> George
>>
>> On Saturday, November 3, 2001, at 02:23 AM, Timothy A. Seufert wrote:
>>
>>> At 4:08 AM -0500 11/2/01, Bill Vinson wrote:
>>>> Okay, I have now tried to burn cds for Yellow Dog 2.0, Mandrake 8.0,
>>>> Debian PPC, and Linux PPC. The only one that would sort of boot is
>>>> Linux PPC and it hung but at least it started booting.
>>>
>>> Not surprising that it crashed, actually. LinuxPPC hasn't been
>>> updated in a long time (the rumor is that the company is dead, and we
>>> do know for sure they haven't communicated anything in a LONG time).
>>> Anyways, I'm not surprised the crusty old kernel included with LPPC
>>> 2K Q4 fails to boot on the new iBook, since that computer is newer
>>> than the distribution.
>>>
>>>> Any way to check the CD to find out what is going wrong? Only one of
>>>> the Debian CD's would mount in Mac OS X, the YDL and Mandrake were
>>>> never
>>>> even recognized as being there.
>>>
>>> Not familiar with Debian or Mandrake, but in the case of YDL the CD
>>> should be a hybrid HFS/ISO9660 CD and should mount in MacOS X. If it
>>> fails to do so, that may be an indication that the HFS filesystem
>>> structure is screwed up.
>>>
>>> Actually, looking at the relevant support files, it looks like OS X
>>> also supports ISO 9660 (as it should), so it isn't able to see either
>>> FS. You might take a look at /var/log/system.log to see if any
>>> errors are logged when you insert the CD.
>>>
>>>> I am just running into a brick wall on this one. BTW, these were all
>>>> burned on an x86 Redhat system with cdrecord if that matters :)
>>>
>>> The common YDL 2.0 burn error seen on this list was for people to use
>>> Toast on MacOS 8/9, mount the image, and burn a CD using the Mac
>>> files/folders mode, instead of burning the image directly. I assume
>>> that since you used cdrecord that doesn't apply, though.
>>> -- Tim Seufert
>>
>> From: nathan hruby <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 12:27:53 PM America/Anchorage
>> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problems booting CD on iBook Dual USB
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> On 11/2/01 4:12 PM, "Malayil Philip George" <georgemp@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>> does cdrecord support HFS file systems? maybe this is the
>>> problem...on the pc side nero will and maybe the latest version of
>>> easy
>>> cd-creator pro. if mac os x isn't recognizing the discs i guess it's
>>> because of a burn error. but, if u are burning iso's they shoudl burn
>>> fine on a pc....u might have trouble with HFS/ISO hybrid images
>>>
>>
>> No, so long as you ISO image is good, the burning software just does a
>> bit
>> for bit copy from ISO to CD (including blank space).
>>
>> If you're running linux on a machine (somewhere I think in this thread
>> it
>> was stated the taosting machine was a linux x86 box, no?) you can
>> preemptively mount the cd to check it with:
>> mount -o loop -t iso9660 image.iso /path/to/mount/point
>>
>> Also check the md5 keys of the iso's to what you have via:
>> md5sum image.iso
>>
>> (If you don't have md5sums and they're not on ftp.yellowdoglinux.com,
>> LMK
>> and I can generate sums for ponoma*.iso from mine)
>>
>> -n
>> --
>> nathan r. hruby
>> uga drama & theatre
>> nhruby@arches.uga.edu
>> http://www.drama.uga.edu/
>> 706.583.0045 (yes, that's a campus number)
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Alexander Holst <holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 01:24:25 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: "Steve Kurlin" <skurlin@bigpond.net.au>, YDL General
>> <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>> Subject: RE: Slightly off-topic -- trash score RS6000 help!
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I'd appreciate some help/info on some hardware I#ve got sitting around
>> here:
>>
>> I have two IBM RS 6000/250 reading 7011 Model 250 at the back, with the
>> following on the front: 7011 44-99468 (machine1) and 7011 44-99469
>> (machine2)
>>
>> The third box is an IBM RS 6000/340 reading only Type 7012 on tha back
>> label and 7012 44-B0814 on top.
>>
>> Do you know whether any of these can run YDL?
>>
>> Any help appreciated. TIA
>>
>>
>>
>> Alexander Holst
>> SysAdmin MacLabor Visuelle Kommunikation
>> Pforzheim University of Applied Sciences
>> Germany
>> ph.: +49 [0]7231 28-6837
>> fx.: +49 [0]7231 28-6040
>> <holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
>>
>>
>> From: "Michael Cozzi" <cozzi@cozziconsulting.com>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 02:57:38 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>> Subject: Opinion?? Version 2.0?
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Have not been too active on this list... but have been watching
>> since
>> 1.2 was released.
>>
>> I tried version 1.2 when it was released and sort of "vetoed" it
>> since I
>> could not get it stable on some older hardware.
>>
>> However, with 2.0 this may be another story.
>>
>> So I'm wondering, is the 2.0 version ready for a production server?
>>
>> Currently I have a biege G3 tower (466Mhz 66Mhz FSB) which is
>> running
>> ASIP and as a simple page server/primary DNS, my cgi processing and
>> secondary DNS is sitting on a Redhat 7.1 box. Would it make sense to
>> move to
>> YDL on the Mac server for the following:
>>
>> 1. Primary DNS
>>
>> 2. Page serving
>>
>> 3. MX service?
>>
>> 4. Webmin
>>
>> That is basically all the primary box has to do. I know it's not
>> much,
>> But I would hate to tear down the current machine without some
>> feedback from
>> people who know: "You".
>>
>> Thanks for any feedback. It is appreciated.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Cozzi
>> Senior Systems Engineer
>>
>>
>> From: jeanachille <jeanachille@mac.com>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 04:00:41 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Connect but don't surf ?
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> Hello to all from Corsica
>>
>> I use a YDL on A PBG3 Wall street, all it's okay except my connection
>> to Internet.
>>
>> I use kppp, i get a ip addresse from my ISP but I' can surf.
>> I use a opera software and I can the same error, host unknown.
>>
>> If I look on kppp "details" I saw that my internal modem don't receive
>> any bytes.
>>
>> Where is the problem ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Jean-Achille.
>>
>> -- --
>> From: Black <cpa@ece.cmu.edu>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 04:56:28 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Re: Connect but don't surf ?
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>>
>>
>> I had a problem like this. What was causing it was that for some reason
>> the default route to eth0 (ethernet port) didn't get changed when the
>> modem logged on to something. Result was that anything looking for
>> packets
>> went to the ethernet port.
>>
>> Unfortunatly, I'm not sitting in front of m y machine at the moment,
>> so I
>> can't relate my fix. It involved a script that got run after ppppd got
>> setup (I run pppd "raw", i.e. I just call it from the command line
>> instead
>> of mucking about with kppp which never worked for me...). There is
>> probably an easier fix involving some config file somewhere, because
>> 1.2
>> never gave me the problem. The fix I use, which adds a new route
>> everytime
>> I dial in, just happened to be the first fix I found.
>>
>> Hopefully, this is enough to guide your web searches for information
>> (how
>> I found the fix), or for someone here to volenteer more information
>> than I
>> can provide at the moment.
>>
>> -Christopher Andrews
>>
>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, jeanachille wrote:
>>
>>> Hello to all from Corsica
>>>
>>> I use a YDL on A PBG3 Wall street, all it's okay except my connection
>>> to Internet.
>>>
>>> I use kppp, i get a ip addresse from my ISP but I' can surf.
>>> I use a opera software and I can the same error, host unknown.
>>>
>>> If I look on kppp "details" I saw that my internal modem don't
>>> receive any bytes.
>>>
>>> Where is the problem ?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Jean-Achille.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>
>> From: "nathan r. hruby" <nhruby@arches.uga.edu>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 05:35:20 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Re: Connect but don't surf ?
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>>
>> It sounds like kppp isn't adding the DEFAULTROUTE flag to ppd's
>> options.
>> Use kppp to start you ppp connecion and then use the "route -n"
>> command to
>> see where your packets are destined (the -n flag will omit name
>> lookups..
>> handy of your netowrk connection isn't working and you can't get to a
>> nameserver :)
>>
>> If it's not, check kppd's options to make sure it's passing the
>> defaultroute flag and / or force the route with;
>> "route add default ip.address.of.the.other.end.of.ppp.connection"
>>
>> Also, do check the info in /var/log/messages. If ppd is having an
>> issue,
>> that's where it'll end up being reported (typically in great detail :)
>>
>> It's been a while since I actually used ppp, so uhh.. the kppp stuff
>> might
>> be wring, and you may need to set the optons in /etc/ppp or something
>>
>> -n
>>
>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Black wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had a problem like this. What was causing it was that for some
>>> reason
>>> the default route to eth0 (ethernet port) didn't get changed when the
>>> modem logged on to something. Result was that anything looking for
>>> packets
>>> went to the ethernet port.
>>>
>>> Unfortunatly, I'm not sitting in front of m y machine at the moment,
>>> so I
>>> can't relate my fix. It involved a script that got run after ppppd
>>> got
>>> setup (I run pppd "raw", i.e. I just call it from the command line
>>> instead
>>> of mucking about with kppp which never worked for me...). There is
>>> probably an easier fix involving some config file somewhere, because
>>> 1.2
>>> never gave me the problem. The fix I use, which adds a new route
>>> everytime
>>> I dial in, just happened to be the first fix I found.
>>>
>>> Hopefully, this is enough to guide your web searches for information
>>> (how
>>> I found the fix), or for someone here to volenteer more information
>>> than I
>>> can provide at the moment.
>>>
>>> -Christopher Andrews
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, jeanachille wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello to all from Corsica
>>>>
>>>> I use a YDL on A PBG3 Wall street, all it's okay except my connection
>>>> to Internet.
>>>>
>>>> I use kppp, i get a ip addresse from my ISP but I' can surf.
>>>> I use a opera software and I can the same error, host unknown.
>>>>
>>>> If I look on kppp "details" I saw that my internal modem don't
>>>> receive any bytes.
>>>>
>>>> Where is the problem ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Jean-Achille.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> ......
>> nathan hruby - nhruby@arches.uga.edu
>> computer support specialist
>> department of drama and theatre
>> http://www.drama.uga.edu/
>> ......
>>
>>
>> From: Brian Watson <bcwatso1@uiuc.edu>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 07:09:09 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>> Subject: [OT] Apple Store T-shirts
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> If any of you have been to Apple Store openings and have a spare
>> t-shirt
>> (tube preferred but without tube still fine) that you would like to
>> sell,
>> please mail me off list. Thank you.
>>
>> --Brian
>>
>> From: Bob Beaton <bob@keyengine.com>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 08:39:04 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>> Subject: PB G3, YDL 2.4.12a, & Sound--Do they play together?
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've tried to get clear on the situation regarding support for sound
>> on a
>> Powerbook G3 running YDL 2.4.12a from the archives of this list, but I
>> can't
>> seem to find the answer. Can someone tell me if YDL 2.4.12a (or other
>> kernel
>> version) supports sound on a G3 Powerbook (Wallstreet version)? I've
>> got the
>> OS installed cleanly, but it doesn't want to initialize the sound
>> driver:
>> /dev/dsp. Hopefully I've just overlooked something simple.
>>
>> Many thanks!
>> Bob Beaton
>>
>> From: cbsled@ncia.net
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 03:30:49 PM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Re: PB G3, YDL 2.4.12a, & Sound--Do they play together?
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> On 11/02/01, at 12:39 PM, Bob Beaton <bob@keyengine.com> said:
>>
>>> Can someone tell me if YDL 2.4.12a (or other kernel
>>> version) supports sound on a G3 Powerbook (Wallstreet version)?
>>
>> Sound under YDL 2.0 worked "out of the box" on my '98 G3 300
>> Wallstreet.
>> Kernel is 2.2.something
>>
>> --
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Carl Brown cbsled@ncia.net
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Support Organized Crime-
>> Buy Microsoft products
>>
>> From: Oscar Jack Marsh <oscarmarsh@mac.com>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 10:23:31 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Startup problem on an iMac
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> I need to clarify my problem, so:
>> I've only been running Linux for 2 weeks.
>> My Mac is an iMac DV tangerine, the version of YDL is 2.0. I'm on Mac
>> OS 9.1.
>>
>> Whilst I was logged in as root, I entered the following in a terminal:
>>
>> /sbin/macos/
>>
>> I know I shouldn't have done this, because it rebooted the computer
>> and restarted into Mac OS, providing *no* Linux options. It simply
>> flashed white and booted into Mac OS, like a normal Macintosh.
>> Normally, Linux will flash a pinkish-orange screen then provide a
>> white-text-on-black CLI, prompting Linux, Mac or CD booting. By
>> default I set it at installation to boot Mac OS after a pause.
>>
>> So that's:
>> - Mac boots into Mac OS, not Linux
>> - No orange screen but instead a white screen
>> - No options to get into Linux
>>
>> I can't get into Linux! Well, I can - by booting from the "Tasty
>> Morsels" CD (The Installation disc won't boot and reads very
>> sluggishly for some reason - it might be scratched, not sure)
>>
>> Does anyone know how to reverse this situation? I'm new to Linux but
>> I'm learning. Apologies if this isn't clear enough for anyone and any
>> help at all would be greatly welcomed and appreciated.
>>
>> Oscar Marsh
>> -- --
>> http://homepage.mac.com/oscarmarsh/
>> Ya basta!
>> From: Tim Clinton <clinton@ucalgary.ca>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 10:41:16 AM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: X server screen resolution
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>>
>> I have a newly installed YDL 2.1 on Old World G3/266, Apple Multiple
>> Scan 17" monitor.
>>
>> Upon login, the desktop appear to be a "virtual" 1024x768 on a 800x600
>> screen. Moving the mouse off the edges of the monitor scrolls the
>> desktop.
>>
>> I assume that there is a method of getting a true 1024x768 that the
>> monitor supports. Any help/pointers would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tim Clinton
>> University Theatre Services, Faculty of FIne Arts
>> 403.220.4375
>>
>> From: Bill Vinson <billvinson@mac.com>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 01:16:45 PM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: More info on the iBook booting problems
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> Ok, I had checked the md5 on my iso and it didn't match what was on
>> the server, but I had downloaded two copies of the iso with identical
>> incorrect MD5 values. Now, I don't know whether they have a bad copy
>> up or what, but their iso of fuji is only 17MB which I know is
>> wrong :) I am downloading 2.1 iso off of ibiblio's mirror now and
>> will check it's md5 and burn it. It seems to be getting a I/O when
>> trying to mount or umount the disk. We shall soon see if the new one
>> works better :)
>>
>> 'c' on boot should cause the cd to boot though, right?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>>
>> From: pH_______ <disck@home.com>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 03:12:12 PM America/Anchorage
>> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>> Subject: will it work: YellowDog on a Starmax w/ G3 card?
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> Hi,
>> I'm new here, just wondering if it's possible to run YD on a Starmax
>> 3000
>> with a Newer 300mhz G3 card?
>> thanks!
>> -phil
>>
>> From: Cdowns <cdowns@skillsoft.com>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 03:27:29 PM America/Anchorage
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>> Subject: Re: will it work: YellowDog on a Starmax w/ G3 card?
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> Let me know if it works out becuase i have a starmax 5000/300 that i
>> would
>> like to do that. I have been running linux for 4+ years but never
>> tried this
>> before. My guess is it will work with NP.
>>
>> good luck
>>
>> -D
>>
>> pH_______ wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm new here, just wondering if it's possible to run YD on a Starmax
>>> 3000
>>> with a Newer 300mhz G3 card?
>>> thanks!
>>> -phil
>>
>> From: ùõ® ÿ õ®ù <thruzero@home.com>
>> Date: Fri Nov 02, 2001 03:48:32 PM America/Anchorage
>> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>> Subject: Re: will it work: YellowDog on a Starmax w/ G3 card?
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>
>> On 11/2/01 4:27 PM, "Cdowns" <cdowns@skillsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Let me know if it works out becuase i have a starmax 5000/300 that i
>>> would
>>> like to do that. I have been running linux for 4+ years but never
>>> tried this
>>> before. My guess is it will work with NP.
>>>
>>> good luck
>>
>> ok, i'll give it a try soon then, anybody have success using YD with
>> ANY
>> Newer(or other) G3 cards? That's the part i'm really concerned
>> about--will
>> YD see/use the G3 card?
>>
>> best,
>> phil
>>
>>
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>> pH_______ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I'm new here, just wondering if it's possible to run YD on a Starmax
>>>> 3000
>>>> with a Newer 300mhz G3 card?
>>>> thanks!
>>>> -phil
>>>
>>



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