Re: yellowdog-general Digest 28 Sep 2000 18:51:42 -0000 Issue 249


Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 28 Sep 2000 18:51:42 -0000 Issue 249
From: Patrick Bryson (patandmelissa@earthlink.net)
Date: Mon Oct 02 2000 - 18:23:34 MDT


Take me off of this mailing list!!!!!!!!!!!!

yellowdog-general-digest-help@lists.yellowdoglinux.com wrote:

> yellowdog-general Digest 28 Sep 2000 18:51:42 -0000 Issue 249
>
> Topics (messages 6804 through 6833):
>
> [OT] OSX Beta Install on PowerBook G3
> 6804 by: "Robert Vogt IV" <vogt@arborhost.com>
> 6815 by: Tommy Young <tommyyoung@mac.com>
> 6816 by: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com>
> 6817 by: Dan Parvaz <dparvaz@unm.edu>
> 6818 by: Robert Vogt IV <vogt@arborhost.com>
>
> WebCam for PowerPC G4 with yellow dog linux
> 6805 by: "Prashant Patel" <pmpatel@trinetcommunication.com>
>
> yellowdog-general Digest 27 Sep 2000 14:45:29 -0000 Issue 248
> 6806 by: rgp systems <rgp@systame.com>
> 6819 by: "William F. Hostman" <aramis@gci.net>
>
> YDL and supported NIC's
> 6807 by: rgp systems <rgp@systame.com>
> 6821 by: Craig <craig@cy55033-a.rdondo1.ca.home.com>
> 6825 by: antadam <antadam@lunch-lady.com>
> 6829 by: Bryan Stillwell <bstill@terraplex.com>
>
> newbie: no gui after install
> 6808 by: Nick Trenary <nick@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us>
> 6809 by: Gawain Reifsnyder <gawain@guitar.net>
> 6810 by: "Paul J. Lucas" <pjl@best.com>
> 6812 by: "Robert Vogt IV" <vogt@arborhost.com>
> 6813 by: Nick Trenary <nick@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us>
> 6814 by: Nick Trenary <nick@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us>
>
> make dep fails trying to compile kernel
> 6811 by: Pete Peters <ppeters@broadcastzone.com>
>
> HS Acess question
> 6820 by: "William F. Hostman" <aramis@gci.net>
>
> cs 1.2.1
> 6822 by: jonathan <jonathan@localhost.localdomain>
>
> Installing Problem
> 6823 by: Som Datye <som@li.is>
> 6826 by: Joe Stewart <joerex@pacbell.net>
>
> Help! Installing Epson Stylus 900 on beige G3
> 6824 by: "Nathan A. McQuillen" <nmlists@steaky.dhs.org>
>
> Booting off firewire drive
> 6827 by: "William K. Gibson" <firstdesk@columbus.rr.com>
> 6830 by: Bryan Stillwell <bstill@terraplex.com>
> 6831 by: "Paul J. Lucas" <pjl@best.com>
>
> Looking for a ppd for the HP Deskjet 1220C
> 6828 by: John Springer <john@digitalmx.com>
>
> CS1.2.2
> 6832 by: Jonathan Bertsch <bertsch.13@osu.edu>
>
> YDL 1.2 server, new G4, no usb keyboard response
> 6833 by: <jlhagen@collins.rockwell.com>
>
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>
> Subject: Re: [OT] OSX Beta Install on PowerBook G3
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:47:54 -0400
> From: "Robert Vogt IV" <vogt@arborhost.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Sean,
>
> If you look carefully at the release notes, they indicate the 'original'
> PowerBook G3 cannot run OS X - that was the 250Mhz model in the PB3400 case
> (yes, the ugly gray thing that cost $5500). It's family number was 3***,
> whereas the Wall Street and Main Street models share 4*** (* = something).
> Additionally, Apple's own web site indicates which models can run OSX, and
> actually pictures my model PB on that page (the 'Getting Started' page - the
> famous 'Shark' ad was a 300 Mhz Main Streeter).
>
> Finally, I ran the installer perfectly on the machine. Since the
> installer loads a good portion of the OS's core components, this is further
> confirmation that the machine can *RUN* OS X. My problem is simply that of
> booting.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Robert Vogt IV
> CEO
> ArborHost
>
> ----------
> >From: "Sean O. Denney" <sdenney@cise.ufl.edu>
> >To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >Subject: Re: [OT] OSX Beta Install on PowerBook G3
> >Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2000, 10:39 AM
> >
>
> > That series of PowerBooks cannot and will not boot OS X; something
> > about the openfirmware.
> >
> > That was stated in the release notes of OS X PB.
> >
> > --- Sean
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Robert Vogt IV wrote:
> >
> >> To all,
> >>
> >> Sorry if this is a *bit* off topic, but I haven't been able to find an
> >> answer to this question anywhere.
> >>
> >> I have installed MacOS X Public Beta on a 2 GB partition of my PowerBook
> >> G3 Series/300's (Main Street) hard disk. When I select the new partition
> >> with 'System Disk,' and restart, the machine's screen goes blank, and all
> >> activity ceases (no loading of OS X, etc.). This happens under both a UFS
> >> install and an HFS+ install of OSX.
> >>
> >> A while back, I tried to install Darwin on this same machine, and it did
> >> the same thing.... anyone know if I'm missing something _REALLY_ obvious?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your assistance.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [OT] OSX Beta Install on PowerBook G3
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:50:44 -0400
> From: Tommy Young <tommyyoung@mac.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>
> First of all let me just say I am running os x pb on my wallstreet and it
> runs great (agua is a tad slow but :-) How big is your hd?
> tommy
>
> > From: "Robert Vogt IV" <vogt@arborhost.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:47:54 -0400
> > To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > Subject: Re: [OT] OSX Beta Install on PowerBook G3
> >
> > Sean,
> >
> > If you look carefully at the release notes, they indicate the 'original'
> > PowerBook G3 cannot run OS X - that was the 250Mhz model in the PB3400 case
> > (yes, the ugly gray thing that cost $5500). It's family number was 3***,
> > whereas the Wall Street and Main Street models share 4*** (* = something).
> > Additionally, Apple's own web site indicates which models can run OSX, and
> > actually pictures my model PB on that page (the 'Getting Started' page - the
> > famous 'Shark' ad was a 300 Mhz Main Streeter).
> >
> > Finally, I ran the installer perfectly on the machine. Since the
> > installer loads a good portion of the OS's core components, this is further
> > confirmation that the machine can *RUN* OS X. My problem is simply that of
> > booting.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Robert Vogt IV
> > CEO
> > ArborHost
> >
> >
> > ----------
> >> From: "Sean O. Denney" <sdenney@cise.ufl.edu>
> >> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >> Subject: Re: [OT] OSX Beta Install on PowerBook G3
> >> Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2000, 10:39 AM
> >>
> >
> >> That series of PowerBooks cannot and will not boot OS X; something
> >> about the openfirmware.
> >>
> >> That was stated in the release notes of OS X PB.
> >>
> >> --- Sean
> >>
> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Robert Vogt IV wrote:
> >>
> >>> To all,
> >>>
> >>> Sorry if this is a *bit* off topic, but I haven't been able to find an
> >>> answer to this question anywhere.
> >>>
> >>> I have installed MacOS X Public Beta on a 2 GB partition of my PowerBook
> >>> G3 Series/300's (Main Street) hard disk. When I select the new partition
> >>> with 'System Disk,' and restart, the machine's screen goes blank, and all
> >>> activity ceases (no loading of OS X, etc.). This happens under both a UFS
> >>> install and an HFS+ install of OSX.
> >>>
> >>> A while back, I tried to install Darwin on this same machine, and it did
> >>> the same thing.... anyone know if I'm missing something _REALLY_ obvious?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your assistance.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [OT] OSX Beta Install on PowerBook G3
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:01:19 -0700
> From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> At 3:50 PM -0400 9/27/00, Tommy Young wrote:
> >First of all let me just say I am running os x pb on my wallstreet and it
> >runs great (agua is a tad slow but :-) How big is your hd?
>
> heck, as long as off topic discussions are okay here, does anyone
> know of a good place in the San Francisco Bay area to buy tamales?
>
> --
> Chuq Von Rospach - Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:chuqui@plaidworks.com)
> Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:chuq@apple.com)
>
> And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar
> and say 'Man, what are you doing here?'"
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [OT] OSX Beta Install on PowerBook G3
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:05:14 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Dan Parvaz <dparvaz@unm.edu>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> > heck, as long as off topic discussions are okay here, does anyone
> > know of a good place in the San Francisco Bay area to buy tamales?
>
> Unacceptable, sorry. Go ask a FreeBSD list :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dan.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [OT] OSX Beta Install on PowerBook G3
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:29:06 -0400
> From: Robert Vogt IV <vogt@arborhost.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On Wednesday, September 27, 2000, at 03:50 PM, Tommy Young wrote:
>
> > First of all let me just say I am running os x pb on my wallstreet and it
> > runs great (agua is a tad slow but :-) How big is your hd?
> > tommy
> I have an 8GB internal and a 18GB expansion bay drive. (Total 26GB.) The expansion bay drive is WAY faster than the internal (like 4-5 x), which is why I wanted OS X on it. But, alas, that isn't gonna happen.... I ended up repartitioning my internal (via pdisk - I merged a few extra partitions), and everything is running very well now - I'm using Mail.app! :)
>
> -Robert Vogt IV
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: WebCam for PowerPC G4 with yellow dog linux
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:42:46 -0500
> From: "Prashant Patel" <pmpatel@trinetcommunication.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>
> Hello Everyone
> I am new to yellow dog linux on Power PC G4. I have successfully
> installed yellow dog linux on power pc G4. Now i wants to attach web camera
> to the available usb on G4. Right now i don't know which web camera supports
> yellow dog linux with G4. So can anybody suggest any working stable web
> camera for YDL with G4 ?
>
> Thanks
> Prashant Patel
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 27 Sep 2000 14:45:29 -0000 Issue 248
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:51:42 -0400
> From: rgp systems <rgp@systame.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>
> on 9/27/00 10:45 AM, yellowdog-general-digest-help@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> at yellowdog-general-digest-help@lists.yellowdoglinux.com wrote:
>
> > From: Morten Rønseth <Morten.Ronseth@coil.no>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:07:50 +0200
> > To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> > Subject: YDL and supported NIC's
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On the YDL support page the following devices are supported as being
> > supported, namely MACE, BMAC, BMAC+, and DEC 21041 ethernet interfaces.
> > Does anybody have any experience in adding extra cards to their machines?
> > We are about to set up a firewall using 'ipchains' and I'd just like to
> > sample others experience before we shop cards.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > -Morten
>
> The LDP Networking HOWTO has a complete list:
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/pdf/Net-HOWTO.pdf
>
> You'll need the tulip module or to have tulip compiled into your kernel.
>
> I installed a Netgear FA310TX 10/100 NIC in a 7200 running YDL, but I'm
> having a strange problem with it. It seems to run ok for about a week, then
> the connection to the network gets lost. Upon reboot it works again. I'm
> trying to figure out if it's the card or something else.
>
> --
> Randy Perry
> rgp systems
>
> Mac Consulting/Sales
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 27 Sep 2000 14:45:29 -0000 Issue 248
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:09:47 -0800
> From: "William F. Hostman" <aramis@gci.net>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> >Hollis R Blanchard wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> > so you need at least a small HFS partition that contains
> >> > your kernel, yaboot.tbxi, and yaboot.conf. then you tell the open firmware
> >> > to boot like:
> >> >
> >> > boot hd:x,\yaboot.tbxi
> >>
> >> This is slightly wrong.
> >>
> >> "hd:x,\\yaboot.tbxi" would run the program "yaboot.tbxi" from the
> >> (blessed) System Folder.
> >
> >the \yaboot.tbxi works too, it gets it out of the root directory....
> >
> >
> not on all machines (on my iMac DVSE 500Mhz, it will not find it with the
> single slash).
>
> William F. Hostman | "Smith & Wesson: THe original Point and Click
> interface!"
> Aramis 0602 C55A364-C S kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge-
> 533
> aramis@gci.net http://home.gci.net/~aramis Vilani: uilamaanamti sirohbrankilin
> IMTU 1.0: tc tm++ tn- t4-- tt+ to- tg-- ru+ ge 3i+ c+ jt-() au+ st- ls
> pi+() ta+ he+(-) kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge- pi+
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: YDL and supported NIC's
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:53:42 -0400
> From: rgp systems <rgp@systame.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>, <Morten.Ronseth@coil.no>
>
> on 9/27/00 10:45 AM, yellowdog-general-digest-help@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> at yellowdog-general-digest-help@lists.yellowdoglinux.com wrote:
>
> > From: Morten Rønseth <Morten.Ronseth@coil.no>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:07:50 +0200
> > To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
> > Subject: YDL and supported NIC's
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On the YDL support page the following devices are supported as being
> > supported, namely MACE, BMAC, BMAC+, and DEC 21041 ethernet interfaces.
> > Does anybody have any experience in adding extra cards to their machines?
> > We are about to set up a firewall using 'ipchains' and I'd just like to
> > sample others experience before we shop cards.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > -Morten
>
> The LDP Networking HOWTO has a complete list:
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/pdf/Net-HOWTO.pdf
>
> You'll need the tulip module or to have tulip compiled into your kernel.
>
> I installed a Netgear FA310TX 10/100 NIC in a 7200 running YDL, but I'm
> having a strange problem with it. It seems to run ok for about a week, then
> the connection to the network gets lost. Upon reboot it works again. I'm
> trying to figure out if it's the card or something else.
>
> --
> Randy Perry
> rgp systems
>
> Mac Consulting/Sales
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: YDL and supported NIC's
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:37:32 +0000
> From: Craig <craig@cy55033-a.rdondo1.ca.home.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> I'm using the G4's GMAC with a Farallon FastEtherTX10/100 card in a setup
> like you describe, as an ipchains and ipmasq firewall. No problems with the
> Farallon card ever; got it
> because the built-in ethernet wasn't supported for a while.
>
> Good luck,
> Craig
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >On the YDL support page the following devices are supported as being
> >supported, namely MACE, BMAC, BMAC+, and DEC 21041 ethernet interfaces.
> >Does anybody have any experience in adding extra cards to their machines?
> >We are about to set up a firewall using 'ipchains' and I'd just like to
> >sample others experience before we shop cards.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >
> >-Morten
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >Coil AS http://www.coil.no
> >Morten Lerskau Rønseth mailto:morten.ronseth@coil.no
> >Karenslyst Allé 16d Tlf.: (47) 2254 1820
> >0278 Oslo Fax : (47) 2254 1821
> >Norway Mob.: (47) 9343 4357
> > ICQ : 25163080
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: YDL and supported NIC's
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:01:57 -0400
> From: antadam <antadam@lunch-lady.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> believe it or not, the new fa 311 chips (the newest netgear ethernet
> cards) do work. don't ask me how i got it to work. you need the
> drivers from www.scyld.com, but they're a pain in the ass to get
> working...i mean compiling them right b/c the directions for the
> additional stuff you need to compile sucks big time.
> adam
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >On the YDL support page the following devices are supported as being
> >supported, namely MACE, BMAC, BMAC+, and DEC 21041 ethernet interfaces.
> >Does anybody have any experience in adding extra cards to their machines?
> >We are about to set up a firewall using 'ipchains' and I'd just like to
> >sample others experience before we shop cards.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >
> >-Morten
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >Coil AS http://www.coil.no
> >Morten Lerskau Rønseth mailto:morten.ronseth@coil.no
> >Karenslyst Allé 16d Tlf.: (47) 2254 1820
> >0278 Oslo Fax : (47) 2254 1821
> >Norway Mob.: (47) 9343 4357
> > ICQ : 25163080
>
> --
> Adam Newhard
> antadam@lunch-lady.com
> Lunch Lady Industries
> http://www.lunch-lady.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: YDL and supported NIC's
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:18:48 -0600
> From: Bryan Stillwell <bstill@terraplex.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Have you tested it out on the 2.4.x kernels yet? If they don't work
> there, you should send a message to Jeff Garzik
> (jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com) so that it works in the next official
> release...
>
> Bryan
>
> --
> Terra Soft Solutions, Inc. | Software Engineer
> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/ | bstill@terraplex.com
> GPG fingerprint: 3608 4610 8C08 B8EB 0970 9686 8A93 386C 6116 EFE2
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 09:01:57AM -0400, antadam wrote:
> >believe it or not, the new fa 311 chips (the newest netgear ethernet
> >cards) do work. don't ask me how i got it to work. you need the
> >drivers from www.scyld.com, but they're a pain in the ass to get
> >working...i mean compiling them right b/c the directions for the
> >additional stuff you need to compile sucks big time.
> >adam
> >
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>On the YDL support page the following devices are supported as being
> >>supported, namely MACE, BMAC, BMAC+, and DEC 21041 ethernet interfaces.
> >>Does anybody have any experience in adding extra cards to their machines?
> >>We are about to set up a firewall using 'ipchains' and I'd just like to
> >>sample others experience before we shop cards.
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>
> >>-Morten
> >>
> >>---------------------------------------------------------------
> >>Coil AS http://www.coil.no
> >>Morten Lerskau Rønseth mailto:morten.ronseth@coil.no
> >>Karenslyst Allé 16d Tlf.: (47) 2254 1820
> >>0278 Oslo Fax : (47) 2254 1821
> >>Norway Mob.: (47) 9343 4357
> >> ICQ : 25163080
> >
> >--
> >Adam Newhard
> >antadam@lunch-lady.com
> >Lunch Lady Industries
> >http://www.lunch-lady.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Part 1.13.1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: newbie: no gui after install
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:59:02 -0500
> From: Nick Trenary <nick@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> I'm having a bit of frustration installing YDL. I have installed the
> os and it boots just fine. Instead of a gui login screen I get the
> dos looking view. After logging in I can manuever around using the
> command line. Why didn't the gui kick in?
>
> iMac 233Mhz
> (1) partitioned hard drive with adequate linux partitions.
>
> Very frustrating.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Nick Trenary
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: newbie: no gui after install
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:16:29 -0500
> From: Gawain Reifsnyder <gawain@guitar.net>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> At 11:59 AM -0500 on 9/27/00, Nick Trenary wrote:
>
> >Why didn't the gui kick in?
>
> login as root (or whatever) and type startx
>
> That should launch X Windows.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Gawain Reifsnyder
> Guitar.net, Inc.
> http://guitar.net
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: newbie: no gui after install
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Paul J. Lucas" <pjl@best.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Nick Trenary wrote:
>
> > I'm having a bit of frustration installing YDL. I have installed the
> > os and it boots just fine. Instead of a gui login screen I get the
> > dos looking view. After logging in I can manuever around using the
> > command line. Why didn't the gui kick in?
>
> Becuase you may not have installed it. If you type:
>
> startx
>
> what happens?
>
> - Paul
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: newbie: no gui after install
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:20:42 -0400
> From: "Robert Vogt IV" <vogt@arborhost.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Nick,
>
> You need to tell the machine to boot into 'init level 5,' aka. the GUI
> login. Otherwise, login and type: 'startx' - this will open X.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Robert Vogt IV
> CEO
> ArborHost
>
> ----------
> >From: Nick Trenary <nick@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us>
> >To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> >Subject: newbie: no gui after install
> >Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2000, 12:59 PM
> >
>
> > I'm having a bit of frustration installing YDL. I have installed the
> > os and it boots just fine. Instead of a gui login screen I get the
> > dos looking view. After logging in I can manuever around using the
> > command line. Why didn't the gui kick in?
> >
> > iMac 233Mhz
> > (1) partitioned hard drive with adequate linux partitions.
> >
> > Very frustrating.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Nick Trenary
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: newbie: no gui after install
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:27:22 -0500
> From: Nick Trenary <nick@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> not exactly sure why it did the trick but it did. i could have sworn
> i typed startx before, maybe i typed xstart. oh well, thank you!
>
> >On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Nick Trenary wrote:
> >
> >> I'm having a bit of frustration installing YDL. I have installed the
> >> os and it boots just fine. Instead of a gui login screen I get the
> >> dos looking view. After logging in I can manuever around using the
> >> command line. Why didn't the gui kick in?
> >
> > Becuase you may not have installed it. If you type:
> >
> > startx
> >
> > what happens?
> >
> > - Paul
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: newbie: no gui after install
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:28:14 -0500
> From: Nick Trenary <nick@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> i could have sworn that i did before, maybe i typed xstart instead.
> oh well, it works now. Thank you!
>
> Nick
>
> >At 11:59 AM -0500 on 9/27/00, Nick Trenary wrote:
> >
> >>Why didn't the gui kick in?
> >
> >login as root (or whatever) and type startx
> >
> >That should launch X Windows.
> >
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Gawain Reifsnyder
> >Guitar.net, Inc.
> >http://guitar.net
>
> --
> Nick Trenary You cannot solve social problems with
> Computer Specialist I technical solutions.
> Cedar Rapids Public Library
> (319) 398-5123 ext. 267
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: make dep fails trying to compile kernel
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:54:20 -0700
> From: Pete Peters <ppeters@broadcastzone.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: "'Bryan Stillwell'" <bstill@terraplex.com>
> CC: "Linuxppc-User (E-mail)" <linuxppc-user@lists.linuxppc.org>,
> "Yellow Dog - General (E-mail)"
> <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>
> Interesting. That's not on the list of required software in
> Documetation/CHANGES. Of course, it says it hasn't been updated since
> October 1999.
>
> Linux documetation: It's a beautiful thing. <g>
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Stillwell [mailto:bstill@terraplex.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:20 PM
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> Cc: Linuxppc-User (E-mail); Pete Peters
> Subject: Re: make dep fails trying to compile kernel
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 11:37:37AM -0700, Pete Peters wrote:
> > gcc -Wall -Wstrick-protoypes -02 -fomit-frame-pointer -o scripts/mkdep
> >scripts/mkdep.c
> > scripts/mkdep.c:23: ctype.h: No such file or directory
>
> Install the glibc-devel rpm.
>
> Bryan
>
> --
> Terra Soft Solutions, Inc.
> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: HS Acess question
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:32:14 -0800
> From: "William F. Hostman" <aramis@gci.net>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> >Hi Yellowdoggers,
> >
> >I am considering moving on up to some high speed access and I have been
> >barraged with offers from Verizon's DSL service and Time Warner's Roadrunner
> >cablemodem service. Can anyone tell me what the differences are between DSL
> >and Cablemodem? Also, I remember reading some time ago a posting about PPPoE
> >issues. What exactly is PPPoE and how could it affect me?
> >
> >Thanks a bunch y'all!
> >
> >Bondster
>
> Cablemodem varies by ISP. My isp allows up to 8 dhcp ip's per cable modem.
> I get 56KBPS upload and 256 d/l. 3 gigs per month transfer limit, with
> higher being charged for. I also get 4 emails, plus 10mb webspace, and
> back-up/roaming dialup all for $50 per month. Static IP's cost me more ($10
> each), and authoization to run a server is another $10 per month per
> cablemodem (Not per server!) and also increases to 96K u/l and 512 KBps d/l.
>
> DSL, locally (Anchorage, Alaska), is $60 a month, 256 KBps d/l 56 KBps u/l,
> and requires one to be withinn 3 miles of the switching center... and has a
> no server policy and a single computer only policy. in short, coverage is
> about 20% of the local area, vs 90% for cablemodem/CATV. Plus no roaming
> dialup.
>
> In my area, the d/l speed (in kbytes per second) runs about 20-25 kb per
> second, even at peak; the problems are with the local ISP's tye-ins being
> shared.
>
> aside from the obvious limitations based upon geographical acess, DSL
> requires modifications to the phone jacks (most do not require hosehold
> rewireing, some versions do), and cable modem requires the cablemodem be
> fairly close to the point of entry to the house (In my case the cablemodem
> and 10-Base-T hub are under the couch, 2 feet from the wall-plate... and
> the rest of the hardware is eneted to it).
>
> check with the ISP's for ALL the details. And remember, some isp's have
> different pricing, useage limitations, and availability by area. And
> telephone lines are often above ground while cable is frequently below
> ground: check out which is more likely to have interruptions in your area.
> For me, both are on high tension wire above ground.
>
> William F. Hostman | "Smith & Wesson: THe original Point and Click
> interface!"
> Aramis 0602 C55A364-C S kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge-
> 533
> aramis@gci.net http://home.gci.net/~aramis Vilani: uilamaanamti sirohbrankilin
> IMTU 1.0: tc tm++ tn- t4-- tt+ to- tg-- ru+ ge 3i+ c+ jt-() au+ st- ls
> pi+() ta+ he+(-) kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge- pi+
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: cs 1.2.1
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:43:54 -0400
> From: jonathan <jonathan@localhost.localdomain>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: "yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com" <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>
> I read on the YDL web page about how champion server 1.2.1 will have added
> support for newer machines like my 2000 powerbook, but does anybody know how
> much more? I have tried several times, and different methods of trying to get
> CS 1.2 on my laptop, but have had no sucess( still wont creat fstab on
> install), and was wondering if 1.2.1 was any better.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Installing Problem
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:35:13 +0000
> From: Som Datye <som@li.is>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: Yellow Dog Linux <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'm new to this list, and I'm also new to Linux. I have an 333 MHz, purple
> iMac, and I don't think I have to say more about that.
>
> I downloaded the Yellow Dog Linux Image file from the official FTP server
> two days ago, and it started all fine. I used the Installation Guide and all
> that: I partitioned etc. but when it came to the install process itself
> error messages started appearing. They said that they couldn't find any of
> those files which were neccesary. All my files were on a FTP server which
> I'm positive that works fine. But the thing was that filenames the the
> installer wsa trying to find were a whole lot different that the same files
> on the Image. For example: let's say the installer is trying to find a file
> called "asdf2.0-1.2.2", but on the Image it's called "ASDF2.0". I tried it
> out by changing the filename and then it worked. But does this mean I'm
> gonna have to change all the names ?
>
> Hope you can help,
> Som Datye
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Installing Problem
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:08:12 -0700
> From: Joe Stewart <joerex@pacbell.net>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Many others have experienced this problem. The problem is that the Mac OS
> can't properly display those filenames. You should download the disk image,
> NOT mount it, instead just drag it right onto toast to burn.
>
> Joe
>
> on 9/28/00 12:35 AM, Som Datye at som@li.is wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I'm new to this list, and I'm also new to Linux. I have an 333 MHz, purple
> > iMac, and I don't think I have to say more about that.
> >
> > I downloaded the Yellow Dog Linux Image file from the official FTP server
> > two days ago, and it started all fine. I used the Installation Guide and all
> > that: I partitioned etc. but when it came to the install process itself
> > error messages started appearing. They said that they couldn't find any of
> > those files which were neccesary. All my files were on a FTP server which
> > I'm positive that works fine. But the thing was that filenames the the
> > installer wsa trying to find were a whole lot different that the same files
> > on the Image. For example: let's say the installer is trying to find a file
> > called "asdf2.0-1.2.2", but on the Image it's called "ASDF2.0". I tried it
> > out by changing the filename and then it worked. But does this mean I'm
> > gonna have to change all the names ?
> >
> > Hope you can help,
> > Som Datye
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Help! Installing Epson Stylus 900 on beige G3
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 05:37:55 -0500 (CDT)
> From: "Nathan A. McQuillen" <nmlists@steaky.dhs.org>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: Yellow Dog Linux <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>
> Hey all.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone here has tried or succeeded in setting up YDL to
> print to a Stylus 900 from a beige G3. I haven't had any success at all,
> so any help would be most appreciated -- and yes, I've spent the last
> three days on Deja, and no, it didn't help.
>
> Thanks.
>
> N
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Booting off firewire drive
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:29:23 -0400
> From: "William K. Gibson" <firstdesk@columbus.rr.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>
>
> Sorry if this has been asked before...
>
> Has anyone tried booting YDL off of a Firewire drive? I'm considering
> purchasing one and installing a YDL partition on it. If I was to use bootX,
> would I be able to do this? I could not find any mention of firewire on the
> YDL site.
>
> --William K. Gibson
> 1stDesk Systems
> firstdesk@columbus.rr.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Booting off firewire drive
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:25:25 -0600
> From: Bryan Stillwell <bstill@terraplex.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 10:29:23AM -0400, William K. Gibson wrote:
> >
> >Sorry if this has been asked before...
> >
> >Has anyone tried booting YDL off of a Firewire drive? I'm considering
> >purchasing one and installing a YDL partition on it. If I was to use bootX,
> >would I be able to do this? I could not find any mention of firewire on the
> >YDL site.
>
> Last time I was messing around with firewire it was only included in the
> 2.4 kernels, and firewire drives weren't supported yet. The only
> working firewire device is digital video cameras, and someone had
> ethernet over ieee1394 as well. If you want to be on the bleeding
> edge, check out http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/ for more information.
>
> Bryan
>
> --
> Terra Soft Solutions, Inc. | Software Engineer
> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/ | bstill@terraplex.com
> GPG fingerprint: 3608 4610 8C08 B8EB 0970 9686 8A93 386C 6116 EFE2
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Part 1.27.1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Booting off firewire drive
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:21:08 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Paul J. Lucas" <pjl@best.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, William K. Gibson wrote:
>
> > Has anyone tried booting YDL off of a Firewire drive?
>
> Firewire is not supported in any Linux anywhere yet.
>
> - Paul
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Looking for a ppd for the HP Deskjet 1220C
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:26:43 -0700
> From: John Springer <john@digitalmx.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>,
> <adamhadm@frontiernet.net>
>
> on 9/25/00 3:04 PM, Adam at adamhadm@frontiernet.net wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately Adobe does not have a ppd file to down load for free...
> > I have to purchase a couple hundred program called Press Ready and
> > then through away the program, all just for a simple text file. I
> > think that is a bit steep in price....
> >
> > I have also searched the Internet and found nothing... :(
> >
> > Adam
>
> Well, the PPD file for the HP 1200 is there and the 1220 is not likely to be
> much different. Might need to watch out for the PostScript version that its
> written for compared with what interpreter you're actually running. Most of
> the stuff in the PPD file is paper handling stuff and built-in font list.
>
> I'm emailing the HP1200 PPD file to you separately.
>
> --
> John Springer
> Portland's my home.
> Rain's a Good Thang.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: CS1.2.2
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:43:02 -0400
> From: Jonathan Bertsch <bertsch.13@osu.edu>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> I read on the YDL web page about how champion server 1.2.1 will have addedsupport
> for newer machines like my 2000 powerbook, but does anybody know how
> much more? I have tried several times, and different methods of trying to get
> CS 1.2 on my laptop, but have had no sucess( still wont creat fstab on
> install), and was wondering if 1.2.1 was any better.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: YDL 1.2 server, new G4, no usb keyboard response
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:49:09 -0500
> From: <jlhagen@collins.rockwell.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>
> Hi all,
>
> we have a new G4 with usb keyboard, mouse and zip drive along with YDL 1.2
> champion server. We have a minimal installation of the MAC OS still
> installed. I can boot from the CD and things load fine. I can see the
> 'loading kernel ...' message and console messages scroll by. I noted some
> below:
>
> ----
> usb: ... assigned device no # 1
>
> usbcore: usb devise not responding, giving up ( error = -101)
>
> hda:hda: lost interrupt
> ----
>
> These don't seem like a good omen, but the kernel loads and we get to the
> YDL installation screens. Yeah. BUT the keyboard does not work. I have
> tried to unplug it and plug it back in but nothing seems to work. I have
> tried moving the ramdisk and vmlinux images to the MAC partition and boot
> using the infamous 'boot hd:,yaboot.tbxi' . I'm not sure why I don't have
> to specify a partition number but the loader does it's job and I see
> loading kernel ..... . The kernel loads and I see the same console messages
> so I expect trouble and I get to the same spot at the beginning of RH
> installer program and the keyboard won't work.
>
> I keep reading about benh's kernel so I replaced the vmlinux from YDL 1.2
> that I moved to the MAC partition with vmlinux-2.2.17pre20-ben3.gz but it
> seems to crash during the loading kernel.... part. Does it require a
> complimentary ramdisk image to work correctly????
>
> I've also read about the boot loader associated with the lost interrupt
> errors that we are seeing but I don't understand how a boot loader would be
> involved there. yaboot has done it's job the kernel was found and loaded.
> Oh well.
>
> I would appreciate any help that I could get. We have a cd burner in our
> labs so I could try lots of different things.
>
> Thanks,
> John



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