Subject: Re: yellowdog-general Digest 9 Oct 2001 21:51:03 -0000 Issue 546
From: Adam W. Rodenberger (adam@thesilverlotus.com)
Date: Tue Oct 09 2001 - 16:57:46 MDT
remove me please, I've tried several times throught the web site, but it
doesn't take...
Adam
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yellowdog-general Digest 9 Oct 2001 21:51:03 -0000 Issue 546
Topics (messages 14936 through 14965):
power save and XFree86-4
14936 by: Alexander Holst <holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
14937 by: Ken Schweigert <ken@byte-productions.com>
14964 by: Takashi Oe <toe@unlserve.unl.edu>
Error installing on 6500/Sonnet L2
14938 by: nat <nafunk@siscom.net>
OS9.2.1/OS X.1/YDL2.0 Boot Help
14939 by: Mr Mac <Mr_Mac@Support.Org>
14940 by: Brian Watson <bcwatso1@uiuc.edu>
14944 by: "Mr Mac" <Mr_Mac@Support.Org>
14945 by: John Martellaro <marty104@conen.net>
14946 by: "Trevor J. Mahan" <tjmahan@earthlink.net>
14947 by: Anthony Agelastos <iqgrande@home.com>
14948 by: Mr Mac <Mr_Mac@Support.Org>
kdepim-2.2.1?
14941 by: John Schmidt <jas@netbrick.com>
14942 by: Dan Burcaw <dburcaw@terraplex.com>
Misbehaving keyboard after new kernel build.
14943 by: Kitt Thompson <omegaman@theshop.net>
Triple Boot Notes
14949 by: John Martellaro <marty104@conen.net>
14965 by: Mark Jaffe <wizards@wizdev.net>
Differences between Postgresql and mysql
14950 by: Nathan Zimpfer <nzimpfer@bellsouth.net>
14951 by: Kit Plummer <kp@yak.vme.com>
14953 by: Max Wiberg <max.wiberg@psy.umu.se>
14955 by: Christopher Murtagh <christopher.murtagh@mcgill.ca>
14956 by: Kit Plummer <kp@yak.vme.com>
14958 by: Rob Brandt <rbrandt@sbdsl.com>
14960 by: David Wheeler <David@Wheeler.net>
14961 by: "Ruprecht, Chris" <cruprech@compucom.com>
mail help!!!
14952 by: scott@conbro.com
Mail Help!
14954 by: X <x@conbro.com>
BIG trouble - system hosed
14957 by: Bob Patton <max_patton@yahoo.com>
14959 by: Malayil Philip George <georgemp@mac.com>
14962 by: JIm Crick <jcrick1@maine.rr.com>
dependency problem with openssh
14963 by: jmmd@nerve.com
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From: Alexander Holst <holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:48:43 +0200
To: YDL General <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>, LinuxPPC Nubus
<linuxppc-nubus@lists.linuxppc.org>
Subject: power save and XFree86-4
Hi everybody,
I have some machines running YDL2.0 by now, but one refuses to set the
monitor in energy savings mode, my Performa 5200.
It did work fine when the machine was running under LPPC2kQ4 [I guess it
was Xpmac as X server], now it only dimms the screen, but the monitor
somehow does not shut off [the screen comes up immediately upon moving the
mouse ...]. Sometimes the screensaver never goes off, even with checked
"Use power management" in the GNOME screensaver settings.
Is it a kernel issue, that has to be specified when compiling, or is it
some additional configs in XF86config-4?
System:
Performa 5200/75/CD
YDL2.0 Home/Office install running GNOME as desktop
kernel:
vmlinux-20010619.gz [2.4.6] from http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net
bootloader:
miboot [this is a Linux only machine]
Any help appreciated [I wuould like to run the machine 24/7, but would hate
to see it's built-in monitor die].
Greetings,
Alexander Holst
SysAdmin MacLabor Visuelle Kommunikation
Pforzheim University of Applied Sciences
Germany
ph.: +49 [0]7231 28-6837
fx.: +49 [0]7231 28-6040
<holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
From: Ken Schweigert <ken@byte-productions.com>
Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:30:35 -0400
To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
Subject: Re: power save and XFree86-4
Alexander,
Check your XF86Config file for:
Option "BlankTime" "time"
Option "StandbyTime" "time"
Option "SuspendTime" "time"
Option "OffTime" "time"
And also check for DPMS under the Monitor section.
Also check 'man XF86Config' for more options.
HTH
-- -Ken Schweigert, Aspiring Network Administrator Byte Productions, LLC http://www.byte-productions.comOn Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 03:48:43PM +0200, Alexander Holst wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I have some machines running YDL2.0 by now, but one refuses to set the > monitor in energy savings mode, my Performa 5200. > > It did work fine when the machine was running under LPPC2kQ4 [I guess it > was Xpmac as X server], now it only dimms the screen, but the monitor > somehow does not shut off [the screen comes up immediately upon moving the > mouse ...]. Sometimes the screensaver never goes off, even with checked > "Use power management" in the GNOME screensaver settings. > > Is it a kernel issue, that has to be specified when compiling, or is it > some additional configs in XF86config-4? > > System: > Performa 5200/75/CD > YDL2.0 Home/Office install running GNOME as desktop > > kernel: > vmlinux-20010619.gz [2.4.6] from http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net > > bootloader: > miboot [this is a Linux only machine] > > > Any help appreciated [I wuould like to run the machine 24/7, but would hate > to see it's built-in monitor die]. > > > Greetings, > > > Alexander Holst > SysAdmin MacLabor Visuelle Kommunikation > Pforzheim University of Applied Sciences > Germany > ph.: +49 [0]7231 28-6837 > fx.: +49 [0]7231 28-6040 > <holst@fh-pforzheim.de> >
From: Takashi Oe <toe@unlserve.unl.edu> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 06:49:50 -0500 To: Alexander Holst <holst@fh-pforzheim.de> Cc: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com, linuxppc-nubus@lists.linuxppc.org Subject: Re: power save and XFree86-4
On Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:48:43 +0200, Alexander Holst wrote:
> > Hi everybody, > > I have some machines running YDL2.0 by now, but one refuses to set the > monitor in energy savings mode, my Performa 5200. > > It did work fine when the machine was running under LPPC2kQ4 [I guess it > was Xpmac as X server], now it only dimms the screen, but the monitor > somehow does not shut off [the screen comes up immediately upon moving the > mouse ...]. Sometimes the screensaver never goes off, even with checked > "Use power management" in the GNOME screensaver settings. > > Is it a kernel issue, that has to be specified when compiling, or is it > some additional configs in XF86config-4?
This is a X issue. I think XFree86+fbdev X driver doesn't support DPMS (power management thing), but you might try fiddling with XF86Config-4 or try a newer X.
Takashi Oe
From: nat <nafunk@siscom.net> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 10:35:27 -0400 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Error installing on 6500/Sonnet L2
Hi there
I'm trying to install YDL 2.0 on my PowerMac 6500 (with Sonnet G3 L2 upgrade). I've seen others on this list with a similar hardware setup who have successfully installed, so I know it must be possible. My problem is that during the installation process, I get an error message at the step where I'm supposed to set the mount points for the installation. It reads:
errror: Error: Error opening /dev/sda: No such device or address
File "/usr/lib/yi/mount.py", line 258, in configure dev=parted.device_get('/dev/'+drivename)
File "/usr/lib/yi/"template.py", line 56, in _call_ return self.configure(args)
It does this whether I use the text-based installation or the graphical one. I tried the option to use the Python debugger and it gave me this:
>./mount.py(258)configure() ->dev = parted.device_get('/dev/'+drivename) (Pdb)
I am installing on a 20 Gig Maxtor IDE hard drive, setup into a Mac os 9.1 partition, and boot, swap, and linux root partitions. The error message seems to suggest that it is looking for a SCSI drive, right?
Is there something I should type as a kernel argument when I launch BootX? I realize that the Sonnet card will cause some problems, but I am launching without the Sonnet extension which enables the card, so it is using the 603 processor. (When I launch with the Sonnet extension active, I get a ton of "lost interrupt" messages and a different series of errors).
If anyone else has encountered this problem, please pass your wisdom this way!
Thanks!
Natalie
PowerMac 6500/300 with Sonnet L2/G3 400 96 Mb Ram 20 Gig Maxtor IDE hard drive Mac OS 9.1
From: Mr Mac <Mr_Mac@Support.Org> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:16:27 -0600 To: Yellowdog Linux List <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com> Subject: OS9.2.1/OS X.1/YDL2.0 Boot Help
Hi,
I do not know if this is the right list for this, but, I wonder if somebody can help me with this:
I have PB Wallstreet and these are my operating conditions: - 300 Mhz CPU (OSX.1 doesn't like my Powerlogix 500MHz CPU) - 256 MB low profile memory - 30 GB HD partitioned as: Partition 1 = OSX.1 - 8 GB Partition 2 = OS9.2.1 - 6 GB Partition 3 = YDL 2.0 Linux - 14 GB useable after SWAP and Linux Boot - Under the old 9.21 environment I run YDL 2.0 via BootX (as an extension under OS9.21)
As you can see from above. I have all 3 OS's installed on this Wallstreet. Iloaded the OS9.1 upgraded to 9.2.1, then I loaded OSX upgraded to OS X.1. THis works and I can start each one independently using Startup Disk. Ithen loaded YDL2.0 under the OS9.2.1 environment and now I have a situation.
OS92.1 and YDL2.0 boots of OS9.2.1 and presents me the BootX GUI so I can choose between MacOS and Linux. This works for both OS's.
When I go to OS9.2.1 Startup Disk and change boot to OSX.1, restart, I end up in Open Firmware. Type bye in Open Firmware and the Wallstreet tries to boot but it just hangs (floppy with ?). To get out of it I have to do a hard reset (4 finger salute) to get it to shutdown and boot again to OS9.2.1 environment.
Does anybody know how to get all 3 OS' to boot harmoniously in this environment? Has anybody worked on BootX to choose boot from any of the 3 OS's? I'd like to try out OSX, but I have a lot of stuff running and am using Linux for, so I'd like to be able to choose any of the 3 OS environments.
I also tried the X-Unix List but no answer yet!
Thanks
From: Brian Watson <bcwatso1@uiuc.edu> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 16:50:16 -0500 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Re: OS9.2.1/OS X.1/YDL2.0 Boot Help
>As you can see from above. I have all 3 OS's installed on this Wallstreet. >Iloaded the OS9.1 upgraded to 9.2.1, then I loaded OSX upgraded to OS X.1. >THis works and I can start each one independently using Startup Disk. Ithen >loaded YDL2.0 under the OS9.2.1 environment and now I have a situation. > >OS92.1 and YDL2.0 boots of OS9.2.1 and presents me the BootX GUI so I can >choose between MacOS and Linux. This works for both OS's. > >When I go to OS9.2.1 Startup Disk and change boot to OSX.1, restart, I end >up in Open Firmware. Type bye in Open Firmware and the Wallstreet tries to >boot but it just hangs (floppy with ?). To get out of it I have to do a >hard reset (4 finger salute) to get it to shutdown and boot again to OS9.2.1 >environment. > >Does anybody know how to get all 3 OS' to boot harmoniously in this >environment? Has anybody worked on BootX to choose boot from any of the 3 >OS's? I'd like to try out OSX, but I have a lot of stuff running and am >using Linux for, so I'd like to be able to choose any of the 3 OS >environments. > >I also tried the X-Unix List but no answer yet! > >Thanks
You're in the right place, however, my only experiences with YDL have been on a box dedicated for it running MacOS 9.1. However, I have one question. Has anyone tried booting into Linux with BootX via launching Classic? I want to know what happens.
--Brian
From: "Mr Mac" <Mr_Mac@Support.Org> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 21:37:21 -0600 To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com> Subject: Re: OS9.2.1/OS X.1/YDL2.0 Boot Help
Brian,
Thanks for the reply. Like how I had it, all 3 OS's are loaded. You have to boot OSX to launch Classic (not sure).. If so, OSX will not boot if you have BootX installed to launch OS9 or Linux from it.. When you config the Wallstreet to boot OSX in Startup Disk, it boots you in Open Firmware. Under Linux it shows OSX to be on /dev/hda9. Can anybody tell me what toe boot instruction is to boot from /dev/hda9?
--Mac
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Watson" <bcwatso1@uiuc.edu> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: Re: OS9.2.1/OS X.1/YDL2.0 Boot Help
> > You're in the right place, however, my only experiences with YDL have > been on a box dedicated for it running MacOS 9.1. However, I have > one question. Has anyone tried booting into Linux with BootX via > launching Classic? I want to know what happens. > > --Brian >
From: John Martellaro <marty104@conen.net> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 22:41:42 -0600 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Re: OS9.2.1/OS X.1/YDL2.0 Boot Help
After considerable futzing and some help from this group, I have
Mac OS 9.2.1 Mac OS 10.1 YDL 2.0
all bootable on a TiBook.
I created a document of notes on how I did it (BBEdit.) I was thinking about posting it here if there was enough interest.
-- John Martellaro ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUANTUM THREADS: http://www.applelinks.com/quantum HOME PAGE: http://www.martellaro.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "What does your choice of computer say about you?"
From: "Trevor J. Mahan" <tjmahan@earthlink.net> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 21:54:52 -0700 To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com> Subject: Re: OS9.2.1/OS X.1/YDL2.0 Boot Help
Hi
I am new to the list, and I have a TiBook that I would like to get that combo of OS's going on. I would definitely like a copy of your BBEdit file.
Thanks:)
Trevor J. Mahan Gris Gris Designs
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Martellaro" <marty104@conen.net> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: Re: OS9.2.1/OS X.1/YDL2.0 Boot Help
> After considerable futzing and some help from this group, I have > > Mac OS 9.2.1 > Mac OS 10.1 > YDL 2.0 > > all bootable on a TiBook. > > I created a document of notes on how I did it (BBEdit.) I was > thinking about posting it here if there was enough interest. > > > -- > John Martellaro > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > QUANTUM THREADS: http://www.applelinks.com/quantum > HOME PAGE: http://www.martellaro.com/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "What does your choice of computer say about you?" >
From: Anthony Agelastos <iqgrande@home.com> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 21:55:58 -0700 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Re: OS9.2.1/OS X.1/YDL2.0 Boot Help
Excellent work. I would like to get a copy of that file as well. I don't suppose this includes getting a SmartDisk VST CD-RW and advanced power management to work as well?
On Monday, October 8, 2001, at 09:41 PM, John Martellaro wrote:
> After considerable futzing and some help from this group, I have > > Mac OS 9.2.1 > Mac OS 10.1 > YDL 2.0 > > all bootable on a TiBook. > > I created a document of notes on how I did it (BBEdit.) I was thinking > about posting it here if there was enough interest. > > > -- John Martellaro > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > QUANTUM THREADS: http://www.applelinks.com/quantum > HOME PAGE: http://www.martellaro.com/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "What does your choice of computer say about you?" >
From: Mr Mac <Mr_Mac@Support.Org> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 23:22:22 -0600 To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com> Subject: Re: OS9.2.1/OS X.1/YDL2.0 Boot Help
Good work... Please post it!
on 10/8/01 10:41 PM, John Martellaro at marty104@conen.net wrote:
> After considerable futzing and some help from this group, I have > > Mac OS 9.2.1 > Mac OS 10.1 > YDL 2.0 > > all bootable on a TiBook. > > I created a document of notes on how I did it (BBEdit.) I was > thinking about posting it here if there was enough interest. >
From: John Schmidt <jas@netbrick.com> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 16:25:40 -0600 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: kdepim-2.2.1?
Hi,
Are there any plans to include kdepim-2.2.1 on YDL 2.1?
Thanks,
John Schmidt jas@netbrick.com
From: Dan Burcaw <dburcaw@terraplex.com> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:38:39 -0600 (MDT) To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Re: kdepim-2.2.1?
No. Unfortunatly, kdepim will be version 2.2.
> Hi, > > Are there any plans to include kdepim-2.2.1 on YDL 2.1? > > Thanks, > > John Schmidt > jas@netbrick.com >
--
Regards, Dan Burcaw Terra Soft Solutions, Inc. http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/
From: Kitt Thompson <omegaman@theshop.net> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 21:55:49 -0500 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Misbehaving keyboard after new kernel build.
Yup, I have struck again. I've backed off my kernel building to version 2.2.19-1k which seems to build without any of the problems I was having with the loadable modules, but now I have somehow managed to buils a kernel where my keyboard key mapping is all messed up! I don't recall turning off anything relating to the keyboard and the only setting I can falls in the Macintosh Dirver section, for ADB mouse and keyboard support. These I have made sure are on. So what else controls the key mappings?
Thanks for the help!
Kitt
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -H.S.T
From: John Martellaro <marty104@conen.net> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 23:40:25 -0600 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Triple Boot Notes
Here are my notes on the triple boot, Mac OS 9, X, YDL. It's rather detailed because it was originally intended for a different audience. But it has the basics.
=======================================================
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Procedure to set up Yellow Dog Linux and Mac OS X/9 on a single drive. (TiBook) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Martellaro - marty104@conen.net 8 October 2001
References:
Basics. http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/products/guide_to_install.shtml
YDL multiboot. Has typos. Not very complete, but it got me started. http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/multiboot.shtml
Separate Swap space in Mac OS X. Optional. http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/ wa/default?user=andymoraitis&fpath=OSX%20Hacks&templatefn=FileSharing.html
Requirements:
1. Mac OS 9.2.1 Software install CD 2. Mac OS X 10.0.3 install CD 3. Mac OS X 10.1 update CD 4. Mac OS X 10.1 Developer Tools (optional) 5. Yellow Dog Linux 2.0 install CD.
I have used the name "Deneb" for the Mac OS X partition. Pick your own name.
=================================== Section I.
1. Insert the Mac OS 9.2.1 Software install CD. 2. Reboot the computer while holding the "C" key down.
3. When you see the array of repeated CD images on the desktop, stop holding down the "C" key.
4. On the CD is a utilities folder. Find "Drive Setup."
5. Select the drive to work with. For the TiBook, there is only one drive, of type "ATA". (The "ATAPI" drive is the CD ROM drive.)
6. Select Initialize.
7. Select Custom Setup.
8. We are going to create four* partitions at this point with the Drive Setup program. You can drag the blocks that represent partitions or enter sizes directly.
* Assuming you want to use Andy Moratis' SWAP technique. Otherwise, just create the first three partitions.
Assuming a 20 GB drive...
Description Filetype For Mac Name Size --------------------------------------------------------- partition # 1 HFS+ Mac OS 9.2 MacOS9 5.0 GB partition # 2 unalloc YDL - 5.5 GB partition # 3 HFS+ Mac OS X root Deneb 9.5 GB partition # 4 HFS+ Mac OS X swap SWAPX 256 MB
Note 1: HFS+ means HFS "extended" Note 2: Partition # 2 is unallocated space, no file system, that will be formatted and set up by the YDL installer later.
9. When finished with the initialization, use CMD-Q. You'll see three volumes on the desktop: untitled, untitled3, and untitled4. Click on the volume name, pull the mouse away, and rename them MacOS9, Deneb, and SwapX respectively. Select the volume icon and use CMD-I to verify intended sizes.
10. When finished partitioning, go back to the root of the CD select "Mac OS install", and install Mac OS 9.2.1 on the first partition, "MacOS9", so that the computer is bootable.
11. Before hitting the "Start" button, select Custom install. If desired, de-select "Personal Web Sharing" (this disables the Mac OS 9 Webserver) and select Network Assistant client.
12. When done, restart the Mac from the Special Menu. Hold down the (left) mouse button at restart, and the CD will eject. There may be a long pause after the desktop comes up. Be patient. Then a "Mac OS Setup Assistant" will step you through the system setup.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At this point, we're going to leave Mac OS X till the end and go ahead with Yellow Dog Linux install. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Section II.
1. Eject the Mac OS 9.2.1 Software install CD if it did not eject at reboot.
2. Insert the YDL 2.0 Install CD. Restart the Mac holding down the "C" key. When you see a black screen, with "Welcome to the YDL 2.0 Installer", let go of the "C" key. A lot of text will scroll by.
3. By default, the system will launch the GUI installer. 4. Select
a. Lincense agreement. b. English as language. c. "Default" installation. d. US keyboard.
5. Select the drive to install on, which should already be highlighted. Press Edit. You should see this, with MB numbers approximate.
/dev/hda9 untitled hfs 4969 MB Unused free none 4969 MB /dev/hda11 untitled3 hfs 8864 MB /dev/hda12 untitled4 hfs 274 MB
and possibly Unused free none a few KB
Notice that YDL does _not_ "see" the names you gave in Mac OS to partitions untitled(x).
7. From Section I.8 we created a partition called free. This is where YDL 2.0 will go. But it requires three partitions of its own here.
8. Select the Unused partition. It will highlight in yellow.
9. Select "Add" and create a 10 MB partition. Enter a size of 10M, and make the type: "Boot Loader" and press OK.
10. Select the big unused partition, then select "Add" and create a 256 MB SWAP partition. Enter a size of 256M and make the type: "Linux swap" and press OK.
11. Select the big unused partition, then select "Add". This will be the root partition. Select "Max" for the size and make the type: "Linux" and press OK.
12. Select "Save". When done, the disk should look like this, except for the Notes column.
Notes /dev/hda9 untitled hfs 4969 MB MascOS9 /dev/hda10 untitled hfs 10 MB boot /dev/hda13 swap linux-swap 256 MB /dev/hda14 untitled ext2 4703 MB YDL root /dev/hda11 untitled3 hfs 8864 MB Mac OS X /dev/hda12 untitled4 hfs 274 MB SwapX
and possibly Unused free none a few KB
13. Click "Save" to partition the Unused space for YDL.
14. Continue on with the installer and select "Development Workstation" or "Everything". Everything requires 2GB alone, so that's why we allowed nearly 5 GB total. Install takes about 20 minutes.
13. Continue with network setup, time zone, account creation, and X11 config. You will normally select "static IP address."
Note 1: Terrasoft recommends 16 bit color. It's plenty and runs faster than 24 bit color.
Note 2: Select from list of monitors. The TiBook entry is in there. IMPORTANT: Deselect all screen resolutions except 1152 x 768 for TiBook. Otherise, the X Window server will not work upon reboot.
14. When done with the install, the installer will reboot the TiBook. Check out the networking with ping and a Web browser.
15. Meanwhile, using /sbin/parted, here is what the disk should look like. You must su to root to execute the "parted" command.
> /sbin/parted /dev/hda print
Disk geometry for /dev/hda: 0.000-19077.187 megabytes Disk label type: mac Minor Start End Filesystem Name Flags 1 0.000 0.031 Apple 2 0.031 0.057 Macintosh 3 0.058 0.093 Macintosh 4 0.094 0.120 Macintosh 5 0.120 0.156 Macintosh 6 0.156 0.253 Macintosh 7 0.254 0.503 Macintosh 8 0.504 0.753 Patch Partition 9 0.754 4969.620 hfs untitled 10 4969.621 4979.621 hfs untitled boot 13 4979.621 5235.621 linux-swap swap swap 14 5235.622 9938.486 ext2 untitled 11 9938.487 18802.687 hfs untitled 3 12 18802.688 19077.176 hfs untitled 4
16. su to root if not there already, then enter /sbin/shutdown -r now
17. As soon as you hear the chime, hold down the OPTION key. 18. Select MacOS9 19. Eject the YDL 2.0 CD.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now we're going to install Mac OS X. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Section III.
1. Insert the Mac OS X 10.0.3 install CD and restart the computer. Hold down the "C" key!
2. Agree to the license.
3. Select "Deneb" as the install disk. MacOS9 will be selectable because one can overlay X and 9, but we don't want to do that. Install takes about 20 minutes.
4. When the installer is done, the Mac will reboot by itself in 30 seconds. Or you can select "Restart".
5. Watery intro! Select United States and U.S. keyboard. Quit out of the registration with CMD-Q and select "Skip".
6. Enter the Administrator's name and password. On Mac OS X, this user is NOT automatically root. DO NOT select ROOT as the administrator name. Select your own name.
7. Mac OS X will launch into the desktop by default. Don't worry, the temporary login screen is turned off. No problem.
8. Eject the Mac OS X 10.0.3 CD and insert the 10.1 update. Eject with: select + CMD-E or drag to the eject icon in the dock.
9. Select "Restart" from the blue Apple menu.
10. Accept the license agreement and select "Deneb" as the partition to update. Note that Mac OS 9 is dimmed because there is no Mac OS X there to update.
11. Select Easy Install.
12. The update takes about 20 minutes.
13. Eject the Mac OS X 10.1 CD and insert the Developer Tools CD.
14. Open it and double click the developer.mpkg file.
15. Click the lock to enter the admin password.
16. Click continue and agree to the license. Select "Deneb".
17. When the developer tools have been installed, quit the installer and eject the CD.
18. To enable root on the Mac OS X command line:
1) Make sure you are logged onto Mac OS X as the administrator. 2) Launch the NetInfo Manager.app from /Applications/Utilities 3) From the menu items, select Domain->Security->Authenticate. 4) Enter the admin password. 5) From the menu items, select Domain->Security->Enable Root user 6) Select a root password 7) Root is now enabled in the terminal window.
19. Goto the System Prefs -> Login -> Login Window Tab and de-select automatically login.
20. Install the .tcshrc file if you use tcsh.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Section IV.
Recovery. When we installed Mac OS X, we changed the default boot partition. If YDL is launched by selecting the YDL icon at boot with the OPTION key down, there will be problems.
1. First we must fix the /etc/yaboot.conf file.
2. Restart the computer with the OPTION key held down. This is an acceptable way to get into Mac OS 9 or X. But there is another step before YDL can run properly.
3. Select the YDL partition. It has a small penguin. Click the right arrow. You will come up in YDL, but it is not yet usable for networking.**
4. Log in and open a terminal window. su to root. Edit the file /etc/yaboot.conf
5. Make the start of the file look like this, based on our partition maps above:
boot=/dev/hda10 macos=/dev/hda9 macosx=/dev/hda11
6. From now on, when you restart the computer, the ybin program will manage your startup process, giving options for Linux (l), Mac OS 9 (m) and Mac OS X (x).
** If YDL does not start from the ybin program, networking seems to be disabled.
Recently, something changed. The TiBook defaults to X instead of ybin. But if I hold down the OPTION key at boot and select YDL, ybin executes first and launches YDL correctly. That is, networking is enabled. I have no idea how this change happened. If you figure it out, let me know!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Section V. Set up the SWAPX partition if desired according to the instructions in the references above.
-- John Martellaro ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUANTUM THREADS: http://www.applelinks.com/quantum HOME PAGE: http://www.martellaro.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "What does your choice of computer say about you?"
From: Mark Jaffe <wizards@wizdev.net> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:38:58 -0700 To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com> Subject: Re: Triple Boot Notes
On 10/8/01 10:40 PM, "John Martellaro" <marty104@conen.net> wrote:
> Here are my notes on the triple boot, Mac OS 9, X, YDL. It's rather > detailed because it was originally intended for a different audience. > But it has the basics. > > ======================================================= > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Procedure to set up Yellow Dog Linux and Mac OS X/9 on > a single drive. (TiBook) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > John Martellaro - marty104@conen.net > 8 October 2001
John,
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing.
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From: Nathan Zimpfer <nzimpfer@bellsouth.net> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 10:29:23 -0400 To: yellowdog-general <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com> Subject: Differences between Postgresql and mysql
Hey all,
I need to create a database for some of the work that I am doing, and I have noticed that Postgresql and mysql seem to be popular on this list. Can anyone give me a run down on the differences between the two, and some advantages, disadvantages to either (ie configuration difficulty). The database will have to be accessed through window (odbc utility), and maybe through the internet.
TIA Nathan Z.
From: Kit Plummer <kp@yak.vme.com> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 08:10:02 -0700 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Re: Differences between Postgresql and mysql
Nathan,
A quick search on the Inet will reveal some gems of information regarding the showdown between the two databases.
My suggestion is that if you have any intention what so ever of putting your database on the Inet then MySQL is your choice. The speed of MySQL is a high requisite for any web-based transaction.
PostgreSQL is designed with high record quantity databases in mind. It's features are geared more for Enterprise usage and complex query transactions.
So, to summarize from a macro view:
MySQL - small, quick, and easy maintenance / learning curve
PostgreSQL - large, not as quick, but not slow, more difficult to learn and interface
Hope this helps somewhat...
http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/tim20000705.php3?page=1 http://www.webtechniques.com/archives/2001/09/jepson/
Kit
At 10:29 AM 10/9/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Hey all, > >I need to create a database for some of the work that I am doing, and I have >noticed that Postgresql and mysql seem to be popular on this list. Can >anyone give me a run down on the differences between the two, and some >advantages, disadvantages to either (ie configuration difficulty). The >database will have to be accessed through window (odbc utility), and maybe >through the internet. > > >TIA >Nathan Z.
Cheers!
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From: Max Wiberg <max.wiberg@psy.umu.se> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 17:49:41 +0200 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Re: Differences between Postgresql and mysql
>Nathan, > >So, to summarize from a macro view: > >MySQL - small, quick, and easy maintenance / learning curve > >PostgreSQL - large, not as quick, but not slow, more difficult to >learn and interface > >Hope this helps somewhat... > >http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/tim20000705.php3?page=1 >http://www.webtechniques.com/archives/2001/09/jepson/ > >Kit > >At 10:29 AM 10/9/2001 -0400, you wrote: >>Hey all, >> >>I need to create a database for some of the work that I am doing, and I have >>noticed that Postgresql and mysql seem to be popular >>Nathan Z. > >Cheers! > To Kit and Nathan!
I think it was on phpbuilder sited I read an article about tweaking postgresql for speed. Properly tweaked ( admittedly a bit work - not too difficult) postgresql is on par, if not faster than mysql, especially under heavy loads.
Cheers and good luck: max! --
From: Christopher Murtagh <christopher.murtagh@mcgill.ca> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:55:02 -0400 (EDT) To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Re: Differences between Postgresql and mysql
On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Kit Plummer wrote: >My suggestion is that if you have any intention what so ever of putting >your database on the Inet then MySQL is your choice. The speed of MySQL >is a high requisite for any web-based transaction.
I really can't agree with this. We have chosen PostgreSQL for our database and we easily get several thousand queries a day (some of our pages have over 100 queries on them). PostgreSQL is hands down a more robust and complete database than MySQL. It passes the ACID test, has support for triggers and its own scripting language (as well as Perl). Some have stated that PostgreSQL is slower than MySQL, but honestly we haven't noticed much of a difference. We have been using PostgreSQL since version 7.0, and I have heard that version 6.5 was a dog performance-wise, so maybe some of the complaints were from earlier versions.
So, my advice would be if you need speedy, read-only access but robust or feature rich is not important, then go with MySQL. Otherwise go with PostgreSQL, it really isn't hard to learn at all.
Cheers,
Chris
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From: Kit Plummer <kp@yak.vme.com> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 09:09:59 -0700 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Re: Differences between Postgresql and mysql
I agree, I am not against PostgreSQL in anyway. But, to argue for MySQL there is a special release which supports advanced table formats. In addition, there are patches available which provide table locking and special join functionality - which seemed to be the big argument for PostgreSQL at one point.
Having used both databases in production environments I still would suggest MySQL...
Kit
At 11:55 AM 10/9/2001 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Kit Plummer wrote: > >My suggestion is that if you have any intention what so ever of putting > >your database on the Inet then MySQL is your choice. The speed of MySQL > >is a high requisite for any web-based transaction. > > > I really can't agree with this. We have chosen PostgreSQL for our >database and we easily get several thousand queries a day (some of our >pages have over 100 queries on them). PostgreSQL is hands down a more >robust and complete database than MySQL. It passes the ACID test, has >support for triggers and its own scripting language (as well as Perl). >Some have stated that PostgreSQL is slower than MySQL, but honestly we >haven't noticed much of a difference. We have been using PostgreSQL since >version 7.0, and I have heard that version 6.5 was a dog performance-wise, >so maybe some of the complaints were from earlier versions. > > So, my advice would be if you need speedy, read-only access but robust or >feature rich is not important, then go with MySQL. Otherwise go with >PostgreSQL, it really isn't hard to learn at all. > >Cheers, > >Chris > > >-- > >Christopher Murtagh >Webmaster / Sysadmin >Web Communications Group >McGill University >Montreal, Quebec >Canada > >Tel.: (514) 398-3122 >Fax: (514) 398-2017 >
From: Rob Brandt <rbrandt@sbdsl.com> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:57:47 -0700 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Re: Differences between Postgresql and mysql
My understanding was that the big difference was lack of transaction management in MySQL - no rollbacks. Which sometimes matters, and sometimes not.
Rob
>I agree, I am not against PostgreSQL in anyway. But, to argue for >MySQL there is a special release which supports advanced table >formats. In addition, there are patches available which provide >table locking and special join functionality - which seemed to be >the big argument for PostgreSQL at one point. > >Having used both databases in production environments I still would >suggest MySQL... > >Kit > >At 11:55 AM 10/9/2001 -0400, you wrote: >>On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Kit Plummer wrote: >>>My suggestion is that if you have any intention what so ever of putting >>>your database on the Inet then MySQL is your choice. The speed of MySQL >>>is a high requisite for any web-based transaction. >> >> >> I really can't agree with this. We have chosen PostgreSQL for our >>database and we easily get several thousand queries a day (some of our >>pages have over 100 queries on them). PostgreSQL is hands down a more >>robust and complete database than MySQL. It passes the ACID test, has >>support for triggers and its own scripting language (as well as Perl). >>Some have stated that PostgreSQL is slower than MySQL, but honestly we >>haven't noticed much of a difference. We have been using PostgreSQL since >>version 7.0, and I have heard that version 6.5 was a dog performance-wise, >>so maybe some of the complaints were from earlier versions. >> >> So, my advice would be if you need speedy, read-only access but robust or >>feature rich is not important, then go with MySQL. Otherwise go with >>PostgreSQL, it really isn't hard to learn at all. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Chris >> >> >>-- >> >>Christopher Murtagh >>Webmaster / Sysadmin >>Web Communications Group >>McGill University >>Montreal, Quebec >>Canada >> >>Tel.: (514) 398-3122 >>Fax: (514) 398-2017
From: David Wheeler <David@Wheeler.net> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 19:56:53 +0200 (CEST) To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com> Subject: Re: Differences between Postgresql and mysql
As a big user and fan of PostgreSQL, I have three responses to this (OT) thread:
1. The speed of PostgreSQL has everything to do with how you handle transactions. If you have, for example, AutoCommit turned on in Perl/DBI, it's going to be slower, because you'll commit your transactions with every query. This is not efficient (and not good for data integrity, either). Instead, only commit your transactions when a conceptually-grouped series of queries completes, and you'll get both a big speed boost and better data integrity.
2. MySQL does indeed offer transactions and such with their latest release, but my understanding is that it relies on an external, file-based DB (Sleepcat DB) to do it, and that slows it way down. I may well be wrong on the details, though.
3. The speed benefits of MySQL exist for only single-user databases. If you have a database where you need multiple users to connect (and certainly if you need 100s or 1000s of concurrent users), PosgreSQL will win hands down (thanks to its use of MVCC vs. MySQL's table locking).
For more information, there's a fair bit of information on the net regarding the performance of these two database servers, including some rather polite debate between the two camps. Here are some links:
On PostgreSQL performance tuning:
http://www2.linuxjournal.com/lj-issues/issue88/4791.html
A WebTechniques article comparing the two:
http://www.webtechniques.com/archives/2001/09/jepson/
Some debate between the two camps:
http://webmail.postgresql.org/~petere/comparison.html
On MVCC in PostgreSQL:
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue68/mitchell.html
PostgreSQL TechDocs:
http://techdocs.postgresql.org/
HTH,
David
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From: "Ruprecht, Chris" <cruprech@compucom.com> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:18:24 -0400 To: <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com> Subject: RE: Differences between PostGreSQL and mysql
Nathan,
It depends very much on what you're doing with the database. Here is an extremely simplified response to your question: If you want to store a number of static records and seldom update them, use MySQL. If you want to write an application where users constantly change/add/delete records, use PostGres.
To make any better statement, one would need more info about your database needs. I have to admit that I have never used MySQL, but I have done some work in PostGreSQL and a lot of work in Progress 4GL/RDBMS (not available for PPC Linux). I found that PostGreSQL is slightly faster than Progress (which is a commercial product) running on the same machine with similar memory/disk requirements.
Best regards, Chris
> -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan Zimpfer [mailto:nzimpfer@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:29 AM > To: yellowdog-general > Subject: Differences between Postgresql and mysql > > > Hey all, > > I need to create a database for some of the work that I am > doing, and I have > noticed that Postgresql and mysql seem to be popular on this > list. Can > anyone give me a run down on the differences between the two, and some > advantages, disadvantages to either (ie configuration > difficulty). The > database will have to be accessed through window (odbc > utility), and maybe > through the internet. > > > TIA > Nathan Z. > > >
From: scott@conbro.com Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:51:44 -0500 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: mail help!!!
Does anyone have a rpm for courier-mail for yellowdog linux 2.0? I keep getting an error when trying to make a rpm from tar ball file. Any help is welcome.
Thanx scott
From: X <x@conbro.com> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:52:49 -0500 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Mail Help!
Does anyone have a rpm for courier-mail for yellowdog linux 2.0? I keep getting an error when trying to make a rpm from tar ball file. Any help is welcome.
Thanx scott
From: Bob Patton <max_patton@yahoo.com> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:19:33 -0700 (PDT) To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com, linuxppc-user@lists.linuxppc.org Subject: BIG trouble - system hosed
I have a very recent installation of YDL2.0 no a beige G3. Out of curiosity, I unchecked the BootX option that says something like "Force video settings". I didn't save the settings.
I booted into runlevel 3 just fine. Did startx just fine and messed around for a bit on nothing significant.
Then I tried to reboot the machine to get to the MacOS via running the command macos as root after exiting from X. The screen went black like it was supposed to, I heard the nice little MacOS chime, the tiny light on the monitor went from yellow to green, but then the light went back to yellow just a second or two later and nothing else happened. The screen stayed black - no further sounds from the hard drive indicating that it was trying to do anything. Nothing. This is all happening well before any happy or sad Mac would have appeared.
So I tried rebooting from the system CD and, to my great suprise, got the same results. So it does not appear to be a hard drive failure. Its as if some firmware setting was changed that hangs the machine early in the boot process.
Does anyone have any hint as to what could have happened or what I could do to fix it? I am totally lost and totally dead in the water.
Regards,
Bob Patton
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From: Malayil Philip George <georgemp@mac.com> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 23:02:26 +0530 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: Re: BIG trouble - system hosed
try zapping your pram....hold down command-opt-p-r at startup...let it chime a couple of times. then try restarting again.
George
On Tuesday, October 9, 2001, at 09:49 PM, Bob Patton wrote:
> I have a very recent installation of YDL2.0 no a beige > G3. Out of curiosity, I unchecked the BootX option > that says something like "Force video settings". I > didn't save the settings. > > I booted into runlevel 3 just fine. Did startx just > fine and messed around for a bit on nothing > significant. > > Then I tried to reboot the machine to get to the MacOS > via running the command macos as root after exiting > from X. The screen went black like it was supposed to, > I heard the nice little MacOS chime, the tiny light on > the monitor went from yellow to green, but then the > light went back to yellow just a second or two later > and nothing else happened. The screen stayed black - > no further sounds from the hard drive indicating that > it was trying to do anything. Nothing. This is all > happening well before any happy or sad Mac would have > appeared. > > So I tried rebooting from the system CD and, to my > great suprise, got the same results. So it does not > appear to be a hard drive failure. Its as if some > firmware setting was changed that hangs the machine > early in the boot process. > > Does anyone have any hint as to what could have > happened or what I could do to fix it? I am totally > lost and totally dead in the water. > > Regards, > > Bob Patton > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just > $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1
From: JIm Crick <jcrick1@maine.rr.com> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:34:06 +0000 To: Bob Patton <max_patton@yahoo.com>, <yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com>, <linuxppc-user@lists.linuxppc.org> Subject: Re: BIG trouble - system hosed
Bob:
this sounds alot like my misadventure trying to get OS X to run on my starmax-
I'm not entirely sure what the problem is, but from the above experience my guess is that it has to do w/ some non-volitile ram settings-
what I had to do was open up the case and hit the system reset button-
I'd try a pram zap first, though (hold down command-option-p-r keys until you hear the second chime)-
if no luck, the reset on the motherboard should work- hold it down for 30 secs or so
if still stuck, you may have to go so far as to unplug the motherboard battery for a few hours, then plug it back in and then try the system reset button-
These steps do actually work on older systems, at least- good luck!
Jim Crick
> > I have a very recent installation of YDL2.0 no a beige > G3. Out of curiosity, I unchecked the BootX option > that says something like "Force video settings". I > didn't save the settings. > > I booted into runlevel 3 just fine. Did startx just > fine and messed around for a bit on nothing > significant. > > Then I tried to reboot the machine to get to the MacOS > via running the command macos as root after exiting > from X. The screen went black like it was supposed to, > I heard the nice little MacOS chime, the tiny light on > the monitor went from yellow to green, but then the > light went back to yellow just a second or two later > and nothing else happened. The screen stayed black - > no further sounds from the hard drive indicating that > it was trying to do anything. Nothing. This is all > happening well before any happy or sad Mac would have > appeared. > > So I tried rebooting from the system CD and, to my > great suprise, got the same results. So it does not > appear to be a hard drive failure. Its as if some > firmware setting was changed that hangs the machine > early in the boot process. > > Does anyone have any hint as to what could have > happened or what I could do to fix it? I am totally > lost and totally dead in the water. > > Regards, > > Bob Patton > > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 > > ** Sent via the linuxppc-user mail list. See http://lists.linuxppc.org/ >
From: jmmd@nerve.com Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Date: 9 Oct 2001 13:15:32 -0700 To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com Subject: dependency problem with openssh
please help--still new to Linux admin.. Installing openssh rpms I got openssl installed OK--but cannot install openssh because of Dependency Problem: "rpmlib( Versioned Dependencies) is needed by openssh-2.3.op.1-1"
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