Subject: Fwd: Re: Burning YDL iso (was "Installing YDL")
From: Mark Brethen (mbrethen@rochester.rr.com)
Date: Tue Oct 23 2001 - 14:59:01 MDT
>Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:48:42 -0400
>To: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914@home.com>
>From: Mark Brethen <mbrethen@rochester.rr.com>
>Subject: Re: Burning YDL iso (was "Installing YDL")
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>I did come across the topic in the archives, but there was no
>reference to using discribe. I emailed the folks at charismac (the
>makers of discribe) and their solution was to use apple's "Disk
>Copy" to mount the image and drag the contents on to the discribe
>window and burn. From what I read in the archives this doesn't work.
>Has anyone used discribe to burn an image successfully this way?
>
>>Mark, my man, you need to learn to dig a little further and search the
>>archives. "How-to burn an iso" has been covered numerous times. It would
>>also help people help you if you include specifics on software versions,
>>hardware specs, etc.
>>
>>I've never burned a CD because, well, I don't have a CD burner. DOH!
>>However, from lurking on this list for far too long <g>, you're correct
>>in that the OEM version of Toast 4.x will *NOT* burn ISOs. One key thing
>>in Toast is *NOT* to mount the CD, otherwise you'll end up w/ a coaster.
>>
>>As for Discribe, I vaguely remember from the MkLinux list that it can,
>>but it's tricky, especially if you have a Sony CD burner. The poster had
>>to discuss the issue w/ Charismac tech support, the makers of Discribe.
>>
>>Have fun.
>>
>>
>>Pete
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mark Brethen [mailto: ]
>>Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 5:10 PM
>>To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
>>Subject: Re: Installing YDL
>>
>>
>>Okay, I downloaded the iso image. How does one burn this to a cd? I
>>don't think the oem version of toast which came with the drive will
>>burn iso disks. I do have discribe which will burn iso disks but I'm
>>not sure what to do with the file.
>>
>>>hi,
>>> i do believe u have to d/l the iso image and burn that to get
>>>to install ydl form a cd. i don't think d/l the files and burning it
>>>to disc would work as the installer ramdisk would be expecting the
>>>files on the cd to be in a particular directory structure or
>>>whatever. hope this helps :-)
>>>
>>>George
>>>
>>>
>>>On Monday, October 22, 2001, at 02:05 AM, Mark Brethen wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>>You might've gotten a response already, but nothing to the list, and
>>I
>>>>>know I've been irritated in newbier days by "unanswered" questions on
>>the
>>>>>list (probably answered in direct email instead) -- so here ya go.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've got a beige G3 and "booted from" the 2.0 ISO first time (you
>>actually
>>>>>/don't/ boot from the CD on these machines, FYI -- see below.
>>(Whether it
>>>>>was helpful is another matter - but considering the serious kludge
>>that
>>>>>was my existing distro, I'm not surprised.) I'd check a few things:
>>first,
>>>>>find out whether your CD was properly burned. Second, remember that
>>your
>>>>>G3 (and mine) is not a New World ROM machine, and as such WILL NOT
>>BOOT
>>>>>straight from the YDL CD. You've got to use BootX, hit "Use RAM
>>Disk",
>>>>>select the boot RAM image and kernel from where you copied them into
>>your
>>>>>Mac System folder (you did copy the RAM disk and kernel onto your Mac
>>>>>drive, didn't you? ;) ) and reboot. You refer to the installer, so
>>>>>presumably you got this far, but I'd double check that you don't have
>>your
>>>>>old (LinuxPPC) kernel referenced in BootX.
>>>>>
>>>>>I also would suggest using the text mode installer (I had only
>>limited
>>>>>success with the X installer, so I performed most of my install
>>straight
>>>>>from a mounted (loop device) ISO under YDL 1.2.) Maybe somebody can
>>help
>>>>>you determine how to select this...? People? Help the man.
>>>>>
>>>>>I know it can be done. I've done it. Be patient, and a little more
>>>>>specific if you can (e.g., any messages the installer kernel displays
>>that
>>>>>you can catch about SCSI devices? do /dev/sdX appear in the
>>partitioning
>>>>>stage? what exactly happens?) I'm at a loss for specifics 'cause I'm
>>out
>>>>>of town and away from my Linux box, so I can't recreate the boot
>>sequence,
>>>>>but more info would help us help you...
>>>>>
>>>>>As far as OSX goes, if you want something as slick and Mac-like as
>>OSX, by
>>>>>all means get OSX. I run Linux on my beige G3 to serve information,
>>not to
>>>>>create graphics or music (which I use my Mac for) -- and deserved
>>zealotry
>>>>>aside, Gnu/Linux has come a long way, but it's not seamless the way
>>>>>software developed with the full weight of a Fortune 500 company will
>>be.
>>>>>If you're willing to work with it, it's a great thing, but don't
>>expect a
>>>>>perfect consumer product. You've done the right thing writing to the
>>list,
>>>>>and when we've got a little more info, we'll do our best to help you
>>out.
>>>>>
>>>>>- Nathan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Mark Brethen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As a former LinuxPPC user, I purchased yellowdog 2.1. While
>>waiting
>>>>>> for it to arrive at my doorstep, I decided to downloaded 2.0 from
>>the
>>>>>> ftp site and install it just to familiarize myself with yellowdog.
>>>>> > I've followed the install guide but have been unsuccessful in
>>>>> > installing it on my second drive. I posted to this list two weeks
>>>>> > before and received zero feedback, so I'll try again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For some reason, the installer does not give me the option to
>>install
>>>>>> from the hard drive, so I burned the files onto a cd. When I ran
>>the
>>>>>> installer again and selected cd/dvd (which is the only choice
>>listed)
>>>>>> it kept telling me to insert the cd (as if it was not able to read
>>>>>> the cd).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is what I have to look forward to with 2.1, I may ask for
>>a
>>>>>> refund and upgrade to OS X. Can anybody help me? I have a beige
>>G3,
>>>>>> two scsi drives, an internal cd and external yamaha 8424 cd
>>burner. I
>>>>>> have mac OS 9 on the first scsi drive and I'm trying to install
>>>>>> yellowdog on the second scsi drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nathan,
>>>>
>>>>You referred to 2.0 ISO. I didn't download the ISO file, I
>>>>downloaded the yellow-2.0 directory
>>>>("ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yellowdog-2.0/"). Is
>>>>this what's giving me grief?
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>Mark
>>>>mbrethen@rochester.rr.com
>>
>>
>>--
>>
>>
>>Mark
>>mbrethen@rochester.rr.com
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>Mark
>mbrethen@rochester.rr.com
--Mark mbrethen@rochester.rr.com
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