Subject: Re: Take me off this list as well.
dreamaaster@yahoo.com
Date: Sun Oct 28 2001 - 13:31:51 MST
It seems that some people are getting confused by the Linux hype and
popularity and, as a result, are thinking that it's some hot new
operating system that improves upon Windows, Mac OS in the way BeOS
does. What they don't seem to realize is that it is a UNIX-like system
whose interface to the user is primarily archane text files and commands
with little wierd names, and whose graphical user interface is secondary
and often requires use of some of those archane text files even to
define its own behavior.
So they seem to expect to install (easily), boot, and see a fancy GUI
that says, "Deep inside of me is the hottest technology you've been
hearing about--and you can easily access it all from here." For this
they need OS X, Be OS, or Win NT/2000, or something else.
Christopher Murtagh wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, Brian L. Friesen wrote:
> >I am switching to Mac OS X Server. It's expensive, but I know it will
> >work and allow me to do what I need to do.
>
> That's funny, I'm *not* using OSX, because it's expensive and it won't
> work right out of the box. Just try to compile some decent open source
> software for it, you *might* get it to work after symlinking library files
> and patching source code. The important things to me (Apache, Postgres,
> Perl, PHP, mod_ssl etc.) compile with ease and I can get going in no time
> in Linux, I can't say the same for OS X yet. Also, my Intel server is
> setup almost identically to my G4s, no funny file paths with upper case
> letters, and no NetInfo or hidden system files. I still haven't figured
> out why, when I log into OS X as >console (to get rid of the GUI) and then
> login, my default shell isn't read properly from any of the config files.
>
> >I have bought Linux books and printed out hundreds of pages of manuals
> >and read through as much as I can stand. My intention was to spend my
> >time building sites and applications, not programming Linux or sifting
> >through numerous books, web sites and page after page of obscure
> >commands and then trying to figure out why they don't work.
>
> Maybe it wasn't the quantity of pages but the quality of the content. I
> have found many poorly written Linux books and web site (same goes for
> other OSes as well). Honestly, if it is well explained, Linux/Unix isn't
> that hard to grasp. BTW, OS X is based on the exact same bunch of 'obscure
> commands' and concepts that Linux is based on. If you want to do anything
> interesting with OS X, you'll still need to learn them.
>
> >I expected an interface to tie everything together and make the server
> >set up easier.
>
> Why don't you use NT then, the server gets setup easily and gets hacked
> even easier - there's no such thing as a free lunch.
>
> Chris
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