Re: Fwd: Re: When will the YDL 2.2 iso be available for FTP download?


Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: When will the YDL 2.2 iso be available for FTP download?
From: Robert Brandtjen (rob@prometheusmedia.com)
Date: Tue Mar 19 2002 - 00:10:42 MST


On Monday 18 March 2002 11:55 pm, Timothy A. Seufert wrote:
> This is not any kind of commentary on the quality of the components
> you can get this way.  It's just that you do not have one of the
> safety nets you would normally expect.  If it breaks, too bad, you're
> stuck with it.  Warranty service is part of what you get when you pay
> extra for a preassembled system, or even when you pay extra for a
> non-OEM component.

FUD!
the only places I know of that don't sell OEM gear are CompUSA and their ilk
- no thanks, no guarantee there - all manufacturers under all circumstances
require you to Mail the product to them to have them evaluate/fix it or
replace it. Besides, just what, may I ask, are you going to do when that box
is being fixed ? Your data is gone no matter what you do with it in that
scenario. a guarantee requiring me to mail it back to them is not much of a
guarantee - Apple used to come to your door (5 years ago or more ?) and
effect the repair there on the spot, no more.

OK Tim - i suppose I could always spend 2 to 3 times as much on Apple
hardware and then mail it back to Cupertino when it has a problem.
the drives are warranted - read the website ( 3 year Manufacture warranty) I
live 3 miles from their store, the drives are boxed, from the manufacturer-
why do you people always forget to read - by the way, 120's haven't been out
that long - but I'll be sure to post here as soon as one of my drives dies -

quote from the page "IBM 40G 7200RPM IDE
  ATA/100, 8.5MS Seek Time, 120GXP Series, OEM Drive
  3 Year End User Warranty from IBM
  HD-IDE-I-40-GXPBM 40G 7200RPM IDE
  ATA/100, 8.5MS Seek Time, 120GXP Series, OEM Drive
  3 Year End User Warranty from IBM
  HD-IDE-I-40-GXP"

now, as I said, that was posted on /. awhile ago, and I wouldn't use that
drive - I dint have any, the 120's have not been out that long -
"While there are arguments to be made for both sides, the bulk of the
evidence points to the latter rather than the former. Several websites
(including Tweaktown) have published articles indicating that the 75 (and
possibly even the 60 GXP) drives are failing because of excess heat.
Certainly it?s true that using the drive less would be one way of keeping it
cooler over its total life, allowing for greater reliability. "

Well, having been a long time user of Seagate Cheetah drives ( last I
checked, no one made a faster nor more expensive drive) I know that it is
imperative that you keep your drives cool - or they will fail. I have had no
problems with these drives, they run 24/7/365 - I never ever shut these
things off, never.

Now, I have seen WD drives fail in no time at all, I will not own them -
Maxtor is shady at best - and Quantum? well, they were good, till they got
bought by Maxtor. Next week I'm picking up a pair of Fujitsu UW 160 drives
for use in a new box I'm building -

Note that I also build them with RAID - automatic back-up, in my case, 3
back-ups, one mirrored, 2 mirrored with tar balls - I'm not afraid of a drive
failure - and in truth, anyone purporting to have a "server" should also have
at least raid level 1 running, and if not that then RAID level 5 anything
else is just stripping for speed at the expense of data integrity.

the 4U rackmount box? oh yeah, it has 4 fans in it, the drives are fine, far
cooler then I ever managed to keep the Cheetahs

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