Re: webmin


Subject: Re: webmin
From: Andrew Weiss (ajwdsp@cloud9.net)
Date: Fri Aug 11 2000 - 16:01:06 MDT


Actually DP4, DP3, DP2, OS X Server, Rhapsody DR2, DR1, OpenSTEP 4.2 already do, but they are going to remove it both from the install and from the CD's. (From several people and the OSX programmers at Macworld) You'll have to add it back in after installing. It's called BSD.pkg It isn't OpenBSD. It is Apple's modified 4.4Lite on Mach 3.0 with Mach 4 hooks, devfs, and the like. It also has modified fs tweaking to keep HFS+, and still allow UFS. In my startup items group I have Terminal.app. The first terminal application to allow anti-aliased fonts.... maybe.

Andrew
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: dsbelile
  To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
  Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 5:00 PM
  Subject: Re: webmin

  i talkes with an apple rep a while ago and macOSx is going to have a OpenBSD shell terminals inside the mac interface so that would be cool a shell with command line inside the mac interface........
  ive thought for years thats what mac needs to do...

  chris

  Bryce Verdier wrote:

      
    what howard is really saying is that he is really looking forward to the release of Mac OS X.

    If apple can do this correctly of course. The reliability of unix... with all its majesty, with the user interface of apple. Sounds like a great idea to me!

    thanx
    b.

     Albert Einstein:
    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Howard Shere [mailto:hshere@greendragon.com]
    Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:35 PM
    To: yellowdog-general@lists.yellowdoglinux.com
    Subject: Re: webmin

> yes webmin makes using linux very easy for the novice user. but problems will
> arise with samba configs and other operations that just have to be done by
> command line. my point is if it makes the job easier and works great but using
> linux ( or any other unix ) you should know the system. that is why most MCSE
> are what they are. you have to think about that one for a minute ~ :)

    I have seen MCSE on things, but I don't know what it is.

    I disagree with the statement above. By using Webmin and giving them
    feedback about what cannot be done through it we can all make webmin better.

    The ultimate goal (IMO) is to leave the command line in the 60s where it
    belongs and get Linux to the point where it can be used by end users and
    this won't happen until it is better (read: until the command line in
    obsolete).

    I look forward to the day when this happens. Command lines and paths suck
    badly.

    Can you tell I am a Mac user?

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